Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: rural southwestern N.Y. State
Post about Salem witch trials..
There was a post over in .."Strange Happenings Outdoors"..which started with the witch trials and inspired some questions on Puritans and Pilgrims.
Too often these two are confused, when they are very different bodies. So, let's clarify.
The Puritans were still members of the Church of England (Anglican church). They were involved in what they considered "purifying" the church of England, that is ..removing some of the residual elements of Catholicism.
The Pilgrims were "Separatists", and wanted nothing to do with the Church of England..and were hated by the king for it !
That well known painting of Pilgrims going to church (painted in19th century), shows Pilgrims in Puritan dress. The black clothes and top hats were Puritan style, going to church clothes.
The Plymouth colony was settled by Pilgrims, but in a couple decades was over run by Puritans, since the Englishmen who followed the Pilgrims were mostly church of England raised. When all of Massachusetts was declared a colony, the Church of England was made official.
..And it didn't take long for the succeeding generations of Puritans to deteriorate as Christians. By 1660, many older settlers were complaining how the later generations were wandering from (liberalizing) their faith while pursuing "filthy lucre".
Most of us would view the Puritans would be viewed as backsliders, were we to witness them today..
After Plymouth was over run, many of the remaining faithful Pilgrims moved with Roger Williams to his colony of Rhode Island, which was Baptist, but all faiths were tolerated.
To cut this post short..where are these church bodies now?
Well, the Pilgrims (they would call themselves Separatists) melded into the Baptists, especially since they agreed in most ways with them.
If one looks for the Puritans today..look to the 'Congregationalists' or 'The United Church of Christ'.
If you recall, The United Church of Christ in Chicago, was Obama's home church..
BTW: It was the Puritans who persecuted the "witches"..by the time of the witch trials, most Separatists were in Rhode Island, and many were already Baptists. ..And Rhode Island under Roger Williams was "the birthplace of religious freedom" in America.
INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN, SCREAMING TO GET OUT. (David Horowitz)
Last edited by ironglow; 05-19-2019 at 08:41 AM.