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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 07-30-2019, 09:29 PM Thread Starter
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So - it looks like centerfire rifles may be allowed for deer in Illinois. HB2783 passed the house back on 4/9, but it will be interesting to see how long it will take the senate takes to vote on it. Just out of curiosity - has anyone read the bill? It looks like they're trying to allow the use of (primarily) rifles that are chambered for straight-walled pistol cartridges. However, they have curiously included bottle-necked cartridges that are .30 caliber or larger, but have a case length that is 1.4" or shorter. Would this not allow the use of the .300 blackout as well? I tried to read through it a few times, but the text is a little confusing for me. If anyone else has any insights, I'd definitely be interested in hearing them!
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Sounds like a 357 sig or something similar. The blackouts got to be well over 2Ē.

Anyway, God bless you. Illinois continues to defy my desire to hate everything. 70mph speed limits,Cubs win a World Series, straight wall rifles for deer. Whatís next another great Chicago fire?
If I remember correctly you hail from Piatt county? I took the cure over 20 years ago. First Indiana then up here to MN. The Minneapolis crowd looks to
Illinois as a shining example I fear. The rest is pretty well balanced.


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I wish they would do the same thing in the Pa Special Regulations Areas!

Most of the state is allowed any centerfire cartridge for deer, but the Southeast part of the state is shotgun or muzzleloader.
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Sounds like a 357 sig or something similar. The blackouts got to be well over 2Ē.

Anyway, God bless you. Illinois continues to defy my desire to hate everything. 70mph speed limits,Cubs win a World Series, straight wall rifles for deer. Whatís next another great Chicago fire?
If I remember correctly you hail from Piatt county? I took the cure over 20 years ago. First Indiana then up here to MN. The Minneapolis crowd looks to
Illinois as a shining example I fear. The rest is pretty well balanced.


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According to the summary of the bill, it says bottleneck cartridges, 30 caliber or larger, with a case length not exceeding 1.4" Case length on a 300 BLK is 1.368, so it sounds like it would be allowed. I can't, for the life of me, figure out why they'd bother including bottleneck cartridges, though. The only others I can think of are 38-40, 357 sig, and 400 cor-bon. None of those are particularly common in the first place.

Anyway, you do remember correctly. I hunt Piatt county and sometimes Brown county. Things are definitely interesting here. I would have left long ago, but the wife wont go for it. Unfortunately, the positive changes we've seen don't come close to outweighing the negatives! Our new governor just saddled firearms dealers with a huge stack of new rules and a new $1500/year state license requirement. A whole bunch of the little guys just went out of business because of it. Also, we're looking at a huge gas tax increase and a minimum wage increase to $15/hr. His next big plan is to do away with our flat income tax and replace it with a progressive tax. I think the only thing that could possibly save this state is another great Chicago fire. I honestly hope Minneapolis doesn't turn into your own Chicago!
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Guess I was thinking cartridge OAL.

I worked in Deland for a year or so. Covered much of the territory in a 20 mile radius. I remember some absolute brute whitetail deer coming out of that area.


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Guess I was thinking cartridge OAL.

I worked in Deland for a year or so. Covered much of the territory in a 20 mile radius. I remember some absolute brute whitetail deer coming out of that area.


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We've had some really good years, but Illinois' success, combined with piss poor management at the state level, has really put a hurt on our deer population. A lot of people are complaining about this bill that would allow centerfire rifles, but I think the types of weapons allowed has much less to do with deer population than the number of tags they sell. The fact of the matter is that you can still get tons of antlerless tags over the counter, and I know there are a lot of people who buy them up and proceed to stack up the does left and right. Either way you slice it, I haven't bought a firearm tag in several years. If this bill passes, I may have to - I've always wanted to use my 300 blackout on something other than coyotes!
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