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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2018, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 45 Colt NM Blackhawk and a 44 mag SBH Hunter. I have been reading various things on the internet about folks installing a Belt Mountain Base Pin and sometimes the context indicates it is because the stock pin backed out with recoil. Other posts seem to suggest there may be more advantages than that.


Is this relatively cheap and easy modification a good idea? What are the benefits if I have not had a problem with my base pins moving under recoil?


I have not yet worked up stiff hunting loads for either but will before next hunting season.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-24-2018, 05:10 AM
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the are closer fit in size to the cylinder so it takes away any cylinder movement caused by it. For the most part ive never seen any accuracy improvement because if any its small. that said every ruger I have in the house had a belt mountain pin. They lock the pin in and every ruger that has any recoil that ive owned eventualy has the pin walk out.

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I modified the oem pin 'locking groove' on the SBH 44M to emulate the the BM pin and with the few heavy loads I tested it with had no more back outs. Cost = free.
Then I decided that I just like 44Spl equiv. loads in mag brass and it doesnt matter.

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I bought and fit an oversized Belt mountain pin to my Bisley Blackhawk 45 colt to take some of the play out of the cylinder. I did it myself with hand tools and it wasn't too difficult. It was however a lesson in Ruger tolerances and fit.


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Belt Mountain Pen: Bought one years ago. Nothing wrong with it. Just didn't see the need YMMV. In my experience the cylinder pin will walk when the latch is worn or broken. Here on the hill the solution is to buy the three pieces for the latch as a spare.
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the pin will walk on a brand new gun. At least anything 44 mag or bigger. Plus like bruce said for about the same price as buying a new pin from ruger (and eventually you will have to) you can get a belt mountain pin with the added benefit of removing some of the slop in your gun and never have to worry about it flying it the tall grass again.

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Had a Super Blackhawks for years and never had a pin walk unless the latch was battered. How is it going to walk otherwise? To me, Ruger has some experience building these things and are just fine as is. This is personal choice. Latch goes before cylinder pin. Replace the pin if it cranks your tractor.
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Aint my first rodeo. If you haven't had a ruger pin walk your either shooting light loads or just haven't shot enough. Ive owned probably over 30 big bore rugers over the years in 41, 44, 45colt 475 linebaugh and 500 linebaugh and just about all of them with heavy loads had the pin walk. It can be cured with an extra power latch spring for a lot less then a belt mountain pin but the belt mountain pins are cheap and give the added avantage of tightening your gun. Have Linebaugh, Hamilton bowen, dave clements, Alan harton, or about any other custom guns smith build you a ruger and its going to come with a belt mountain pin. Why? Because there well worth the small added cost. I can guarantee you and would bet you 5 bucks against my house that if you had 50k through your super it would have had the base pin walk at one time of another. Maybe if your idea of shooting is a box of ammo every 3 or 4 months or spending 25 bucks is going to mean the difference in feeding your family or not it might not be necessary but ask ANY experienced big bore ruger shooter or custom gun builder if its a waste of money and id guess youd just get laughed at. But then I probably don't have the vast experience you do.

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Aint my first rodeo. If you haven't had a ruger pin walk your either shooting light loads or just haven't shot enough. Ive owned probably over 30 big bore rugers over the years in 41, 44, 45colt 475 linebaugh and 500 linebaugh and just about all of them with heavy loads had the pin walk. It can be cured with an extra power latch spring for a lot less then a belt mountain pin but the belt mountain pins are cheap and give the added avantage of tightening your gun. Have Linebaugh, Hamilton bowen, dave clements, Alan harton, or about any other custom guns smith build you a ruger and its going to come with a belt mountain pin. Why? Because there well worth the small added cost. I can guarantee you and would bet you 5 bucks against my house that if you had 50k through your super it would have had the base pin walk at one time of another. Maybe if your idea of shooting is a box of ammo every 3 or 4 months or spending 25 bucks is going to mean the difference in feeding your family or not it might not be necessary but ask ANY experienced big bore ruger shooter or custom gun builder if its a waste of money and id guess youd just get laughed at. But then I probably don't have the vast experience you do.

Pin Walking: Years go my Belt Mountain pin came with a screw. The instructions came with a way to make a flat on the barrels for this screw. Nobody, I mean nobody is going to file on my Super Blackhawk. Five bucks is chump change! I want to see Ben Franklins' in abundance on this bet!
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