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Missionaryfriends in Calcutta tell me it takes most of every morning to pick up the poor people that die during each night. Socialism works well for the ruling cast.
The middle class in India is larger than the entire population of the
US. These are people with cars, jobs, luxuries, travel, just like our middle class. They are generally much better educated than Americans.

Calcutta has a population of over 14 million, and there is poverty and homelessness. San Francisco, with a population about one sixteenth the size of Calcutta picks dead people off the street all day every day.
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"A better model for Socialism might be the Scandinavian countries but I have read that the influx of Muslim refugees is starting to create a financial strain."








Well, eventually you do run out of other people's money.

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Comments suggesting that China and India are not socialist countries are false. They are socialist countries by their own definitions and by international consensus. Don't confuse the transition toward innovation economies with capitalism.

The notion that either of those countries is inferior to the US is preposterous. They are going through much the same process of development the US went through during its industrialization. Pollution, sweat shops, all of that. The difference is that they're getting through that phase faster than the US did.
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The middle class in India is larger than the entire population of the
US. These are people with cars, jobs, luxuries, travel, just like our middle class. They are generally much better educated than Americans.

Calcutta has a population of over 14 million, and there is poverty and homelessness. San Francisco, with a population about one sixteenth the size of Calcutta picks dead people off the street all day every day.
but thier dumber then a box of rocks , whimps and lack Individualism and are unarm suckers to bad guys or a feudal system that makes them working bees slaves to it
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"A better model for Socialism might be the Scandinavian countries but I have read that the influx of Muslim refugees is starting to create a financial strain."








Well, eventually you do run out of other people's money.
They can't. The Scandinavian welfare states are funded by strong economies and high tax rates. Spending is limited by revenue. Swedes still have the kind of social benefits now that they had a generation ago, and the benefits are generally very good.
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They are a long ways from broke and would probably be in good shape if congress had not regularly stolen funds from SS and Medicare.
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You can thank good old LBJ for taking social security funds from the start. Good example of a democratic, liberal president. Don't believe me look it up.
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They are a long ways from broke and would probably be in good shape if congress had not regularly stolen funds from SS and Medicare.
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What do you think of the Venezuela socialism ideas that have been used recently by conservative punditry?
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It is disturbing when educated adults start seeing the advantages of socialism. Guzzijohn (great bikes btw) you are also making my point, once again central planning screws up a good idea. Conan, of course China is socialistic country but they have adopted modified capitalism to pay for it. We have shown them what it can do so they take the benefits to finance a failing system. Anyone that thinks India is a great place just isn't paying attention. As a country it is DIRT POOR!!! The highly educated ones you talk about are their 1 %rs. They are the ones coming here because they can make a decent living. You will notice it is mostly Drs. and engineers. China and India are still 3rd world countries with the beginnings of industrial development. Socialism and welfare are the same, goods and services provided by the govt only in socialism everyone is on the list and with welfare only those showing need. The low wages in China and India has prompted their recent gains mainly through foreign investment (capitalism)

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Those are not socialist programs. They are welfare state programs. The difference is that, like the Nordic countries, US has a foundation of prosperity through mostly free market enterprise, and we have decided that taxes used to stabilize serious problem areas is a public good.
So now you are calling Social Security a welfair program lol. No, it's something we all paid into most all of our
hard working lives. We earned it, then Welfair? Look at the bums who are on that who never worked a day in
their lives. Crap the eat better than we do.
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So now you are calling Social Security a welfair program lol. No, it's something we all paid into most all of our
hard working lives. We earned it, then Welfair? Look at the bums who are on that who never worked a day in
their lives. Crap the eat better than we do.
No, I'm calling it a welfare state program because that is what it is.
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