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Dems run left on immigration: Debate features vows of health care for undocumented, deportation curbs

Adam ShawBy Adam Shaw | Fox News


Democrats vow to give free healthcare to illegal immigrants
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Democrats vow to give free healthcare to illegal immigrants

Fox & Trends with Carley Shimkus.

Democratic presidential hopefuls went all-in Thursday on controversial immigration proposals that mark a shift further left for the party -- promising health care for illegal immigrants, no deportations for those whose only offense is being undocumented and the decriminalization of border crossing.

In a striking moment, NBC anchor Savannah Guthrie asked the candidates, who make up roughly half of the 2020 candidates running for the Democratic nomination, if their universal health care plans would include “undocumented immigrants.”


RNC'S MCDANIEL SAYS 'RADICALIZATION' OF DEM PARTY ON 'FULL DISPLAY' AT DEBATES

Every candidate on stage raised their hand -- including former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

While such a policy plank isn’t entirely unusual for Democrats (Sanders had a similar policy during his 2016 bid), the image of all candidates raising their hands and going on the record with a position once seen as radical fueled Republican arguments that the primaries could produce a candidate with limited national appeal.



President Trump declared the moment “the end of [the] race.”



“All Democrats just raised their hands for giving millions of illegal aliens unlimited healthcare,” he tweeted. “How about taking care of American Citizens first!?”

The New York Post printed on its front page an image of the candidates raising their hands and asked: “Who wants to lose the election?”



In 2009, selling his signature Affordable Care Act (known as ObamaCare) to Congress, then-President Barack Obama said it was “false” that illegal immigrants would be covered by the legislation. That prompted a furious Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., to yell “You lie."

“That’s not true,” replied Obama.


'Fox & Friends' on Dems endorsing health care for illegals, Harris taking on Biden.
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But in the current Democratic Party, that restriction seems unlikely to hold. In a further sign of how the party had moved on from the two-term president, Obama was criticized by name by Harris for allowing the deportation of illegal immigrants she described as “non-criminals.”

BIDEN GRILLED BY HARRIS ON RACE RECORD AT CHAOTIC DEM DEBATE, AS BERNIE'S 'SOCIALIST' AGENDA CHALLENGED

“On this issue I disagreed with my president because the policy was to allow deportation of people who by [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]'s own definition were non-criminals,” she said. She also said she told sheriffs they did not have to comply with ICE detainers when she served as California attorney general.

Biden, who served as Obama's vice president, was asked if he would deport “an individual living in the United States without documents” if that was their only offense.

Biden, while defending Obama throughout the debate, said only “if they committed a major crime” should they be deported. It is not clear what constitutes a "major crime." When asked the question again, he said "that person should not be the focus of deportation."

"We should fundamentally change the way we deal with things," he said.

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies responded to the statements by accusing Democrats of wanting to essentially abolish U.S. federal immigration law.



"So, no illegal alien should ever be deported unless they're convicted of a crime," he tweeted. "In other words, immigration law inside the US would be abolished."

In another “show of hands” moment, candidates were asked to raise their hand if they supported making crossing the border illegally a civil, rather than a criminal, offense.

Only Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., did not raise his hand and former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper hesitated, while Biden asked to clarify but then said that the “first thing I would do is unite families��
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Why should any American dislike paying for free, total medical care for a bunch of illegals who sneaked in from Honduras or Guatemala, while as a working

person they may face $5,000 co-pay before having any medical procedure covered for their own family ?

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IG, how about this one! This election is going to be a frontal assault on America.
Fags, dead people, illegal migrants, double and triple voters, muslims , a whole list goes on.
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I was watching on and off
I saw Buttigieg I think say that illegals help SS and Medical insurances or something like that
I flipped the station. So today I wanted to check my mind on what I thought I heard
Here it is and it was 2 of the NUTS that say they help us.


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It was a brief, but remarkable moment. Two Democratic presidential candidates acknowledged that undocumented immigrants pay taxes. That they pump billions of tax dollars into Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. That they pay billions in sales taxes and property taxes.

South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and former Vice President Joe Biden were responding to moderator Savannah Guthrie, who asked them why they would extend subsidized health care to undocumented immigrants.

“We are talking about something people are given a chance to buy into,” Buttigieg responded. “In the same way there are undocumented immigrants in my community who pay sales taxes and pay property taxes directly or indirectly. This is not about a handout. This is an insurance program.”

Guthrie posed the same question to Biden.
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I was watching on and off
I saw Buttigieg I think say that illegals help SS and Medical insurances or something like that
I flipped the station. So today I wanted to check my mind on what I thought I heard
Here it is and it was 2 of the NUTS that say they help us.




https://www.vox.com/2019/6/27/189224...ted-immigrants
How about a statement instead. I have an offer you can’t refuse...
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Some of the Demonrats propositions;

1) Americans pay for their own health care, plus any illegals who wish to sneak in .

2) Kill babies until they are being born, some recommend killing them after being born.

3) Legalize pot, schrooms and almost any other kind of dope.

4) Open borders to any gangster, drug carrier, MS-13 or jihadist.

5) While welcoming any gangster, jihadist or dope pusher that wants to come in...they are doing their best to deny Americans the right to defend themselves.

6) Force upon the American people, a government health care plan..that will likely be as efficient as the post office, DMV and IRS, rolled into one.

7) Introduce socialism..a plan that has failed every time it has been tried.

8) Socialism starts with a diminishing of personal rights and eventually ends in Bankruptcy, hunger and shooting of the already unarmed citizens.

9) Socialism is a sure route to poverty for everyone involved...except for those few at the top...who rob the suckers..er citizens of their wealth.

10) The left is continually promoting the most perverse practices they can find...


As I see it, the leftists are trying to change the country into a land of continual frenzy of confusion, chaos and a nest of anarchy and nihilism..

It seems they do nothing but destroy everything they touch..everything that is good and decent..are they sold out to the destroyer-in-chief?

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It seems they do nothing but destroy everything they touch..everything that is good and decent..are they sold out to the destroyer-in-chief?

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