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Default Schiff caught spying on members of congress and journalists

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A very serious matter! Is the house ethics committee working on this now?

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Accusations hurled. No one is listening.
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Democrats? Ethics? I don't believe the two words can even be used in the same sentence!
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A very serious matter! Is the house ethics committee working on this now?
Why am I not surprised with this news ?

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I think the victims have a civil rights case with this one.
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"I think the victims have a civil rights case with this one."

What should the case be????? I spoke to someone on the phone who is under investigation and now people know I spoke to them???

I do think we should scrap the whole government surveillance by the NSA, but it seems popular... Of course this was phone company records not the actual calls.
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"I think the victims have a civil rights case with this one."

What should the case be????? I spoke to someone on the phone who is under investigation and now people know I spoke to them???

I do think we should scrap the whole government surveillance by the NSA, but it seems popular... Of course this was phone company records not the actual calls.
I don't know what the case will be. But think of it this way. One of the most powerful people in government sees you as a threat and decides that you must suffer. He is immune from prosecution by law. He obtains your phone records by subpoenaing those records from two major phone utilities who do not challenge the subpoenas. Law enforcement is not involved. The powerful official finds that you had a brief conversation with one of his political enemies. The nature and content of the calls is unknown to the official. The official uses the fact that the call occurred to accuse you of conspiracy and to imply that you have committed crimes in that conspiracy. A sympathetic news media working on behalf of the official freely reports that you are implicated in conspiracy.

Do you think that might be a civil rights violation of some kind? Or is that just the way government treats people?
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"The official uses the fact that the call occurred to accuse you of conspiracy and to imply that you have committed crimes in that conspiracy."

Who was accused of conspiracy due to those calls???? Actually accused or just stated as a fact that they made a call???

Just being told that they were on the phone is nothing. Implication is most of what is done in politics today. "He was paid $50K a month, he MUST be guilty of something (of course we have no evidence so we just imply)

I always chuckle about the time when Gerry Spence was representing a young woman suing Penthouse magazine, in her home state of Kansas or equally redneck state. When Bob Guccione walked in he commented on the fact that Mr. Cuccione was wearing velvet pants... Nothing wrong or libelous about that but quite significant to folks who don't often walk around in velvet pants!!!!
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I am asking you whether, given the circumstances I described, you would believe that you were denied civil rights.

In the case of nunes and observers of schiff's abuse of power in that case, they do believe that they are being denied civil rights, privacy, and due process. Are they wrong?

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"The official uses the fact that the call occurred to accuse you of conspiracy and to imply that you have committed crimes in that conspiracy."

Who was accused of conspiracy due to those calls???? Actually accused or just stated as a fact that they made a call???

Just being told that they were on the phone is nothing. Implication is most of what is done in politics today. "He was paid $50K a month, he MUST be guilty of something (of course we have no evidence so we just imply)

I always chuckle about the time when Gerry Spence was representing a young woman suing Penthouse magazine, in her home state of Kansas or equally redneck state. When Bob Guccione walked in he commented on the fact that Mr. Cuccione was wearing velvet pants... Nothing wrong or libelous about that but quite significant to folks who don't often walk around in velvet pants!!!!

That was in Montana..it was Miss Montana...from what I recall, Gerry Spence kept referring to Guccione as

the man in the brown velvet suit".. It apparently worked well as a psychological weapon in Montana.
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