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post #41 of 65 (permalink) Old 03-21-2020, 08:56 PM
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That money comes from some place, taxes is my guess.

Quantifying the National Debt

As of March 2, 2020, the official debt of the United States government is $23.4 trillion, or more precisely, $23,440,845,102,432.

This amounts to:
$71,175 for every person living in the U.S.

$182,307 for every household in the U.S.

108% of the U.S. economy.

6.5 times annual federal revenues.

47% more than the combined consumer debt of every household in the U.S.
Personally I dont beleive it will ever get paid back .

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Not to worry.

The last time the federal government passed out free money (2008) everything turned out fine.

Trust them. They only are doing this to protect you.


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Protect us...perhaps, from the apathetic, indolent, shiftless, good-for-nothing, GIMME DATS to keep them from rising up, attacking their Slave Masters, setting fire to the Plantation House, and running amuck in the streets of a town near you. When the shops are out of bread, it was once heard to "Let Them Eat Cake!" Revolution starts like this...
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I don't think it is possible for the government to give anyone any money that they didn't take from somebody to start with. My thought is, if the government can spend trillions on bailing out banks, corporations, airlines, wall street, etc.(with money confiscated from the American people), Government should also bail out the American people when bad decisions are made, like deciding to shut down the economy.
Bailing out banks and corporations in 2008, while expecting people to still pay their mortgages and utility bills, after losing their jobs due to government mismanagement made no sense to me.
Why should people have to lose their house to a bank that went bankrupt, but somehow, the bank still survives? Why should people lose their retirement while the FED pours trillions into Wall Street to keep it solvent?
Isn't ALL the debt for all these bailouts thrown on the backs of the people who never seem to get "bailed out" by anyone? Wouldn't it actually be cheaper to just give these trillions of dollars directly to the people...who are really the only ones who can drive the economy in the first place?
I just don't understand why I need to bail out a bank, airline, auto company, or anyone else, when there is no one to bail out me when these idiots screw up? Maybe if these institutions would have just gone under like the rest of us do, they would have been replaced by a better company...or a better economic system. Why are we forced to enable either corruption, incompetence, or both?
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I don't think it is possible for the government to give anyone any money that they didn't take from somebody to start with. My thought is, if the government can spend trillions on bailing out banks, corporations, airlines, wall street, etc.(with money confiscated from the American people), Government should also bail out the American people when bad decisions are made, like deciding to shut down the economy.
Bailing out banks and corporations in 2008, while expecting people to still pay their mortgages and utility bills, after losing their jobs due to government mismanagement made no sense to me.
Why should people have to lose their house to a bank that went bankrupt, but somehow, the bank still survives? Why should people lose their retirement while the FED pours trillions into Wall Street to keep it solvent?
Isn't ALL the debt for all these bailouts thrown on the backs of the people who never seem to get "bailed out" by anyone? Wouldn't it actually be cheaper to just give these trillions of dollars directly to the people...who are really the only ones who can drive the economy in the first place?
I just don't understand why I need to bail out a bank, airline, auto company, or anyone else, when there is no one to bail out me when these idiots screw up? Maybe if these institutions would have just gone under like the rest of us do, they would have been replaced by a better company...or a better economic system. Why are we forced to enable either corruption, incompetence, or both?
Hear! Hear!
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Dunno ole timer. It never goes well for the bait. We're just fodder for the rich man's grill.
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I don't think it is possible for the government to give anyone any money that they didn't take from somebody to start with.
ever hear of a thing called welfare. Funny thing is our wise government already gives them enough free money so that they can live comfortably. Why would ANYONE think that THEY need a raise because of this. Nothing has changed for them. There income didn't take a hit. Either did mine of most of the guys here. If you cant see this is a political ploy to buy votes then your not only blind but like the blind man on the corner of the street your standing with your hand out.

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lloyd, you quoted, but missed the whole point of what ole timer wrote. He is correct in that The Government first TOOK money from the working stiffs as TAXES and then DOLLED it out to the gimmedats as welfare. In essence just as ole timer wrote:

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I don't think it is possible for the government to give anyone any money that they didn't take from somebody to start with.
Everything else is spot on from my perspective...the buying of Votes and trying to make President Trump the scape goat prior to an election.

Through ALL of this madness, several certainties persist. Democrats HATE America, LOVE Socialism, and gorge themselves in the killing of babies.

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