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#4 ·
The bit on the news last night had a Navy video of vehicle flying in formation with the Navy aircraft, don't know why the web column did not use it.
The Navy pilots said they were sick and tired of being forced to create a farce story when they reported UFO sightings because the Navy did not want to report what they really saw.
 
#5 ·
Were the Navy aircraft escorting it you think? Maybe the sightings were of top secret Air Force vehicles and
the Navy didn't know anything about them. That's happened before both here and in Nevada. So the stories
get hushed up pretty fast or explained as something else.

The stealth bombers caused a stink like that when they first showed up.
 
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The maneuvering capabilities of the F35 like some of the guys here were explaining might also be a culprit.
If you had never seen one or didn't know anything about them. Like in the early stages of development and testing over water. I still think it's all home grown.
 
#7 ·
I hoped I could find an online version of the TV broadcast but not there.
During the broadcast they reported pilots said aircraft spotted were flying as speed beyond anything possible by any aircraft with a turbo-jet engine.
As I said the report said the pilots were sick and tired of the what they were told to say about aircraft , not uncommon, qne digitally clocking aircraft achieving speeds in the five digit arena.
These were not rare sightings.


Forty years ago these, at least to a degree could have been Air Force interceptors going after SR-71.
On the F-106 sight some former ground crew members said pilots had gone after them.
No speeds and altitudes attained by the F-106 attempts were told though they did say that such intercepts were not pre-planned items but more a case of senior pilots doing it because they could.
Things done back then would rarely be tolerated nowadays.
 
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Large dark mother ship hideing out there or a base somewhere close by? Believers have a lot of theory's, including the one about the base being underwater. Causeing the problems associated with the Bermuda Triangle. Taos has a lot of reported night sightings in those mountains around there.

The Native Americans say what ever they are, they have always been there. They were once thought
to be the sprits of the dead. Possibly the Anasazi over in the four corners region, when there are
sightings over there.
 
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LOL, sadly yours is just the attitude the pilots are sick of dealing with.:tango_face_devil:



Pilots are about to receive a new memo from management: If you encounter an unidentified flying object while on the job, please tell us.
The U.S. Navy is drafting new rules for reporting such sightings, according to a recent story from Politico. Apparently, enough incidents have occurred in “various military-controlled ranges and designated airspace” in recent years to prompt military officials to establish a formal system to collect and analyze the unexplained phenomena. Members of Congress and their staffs have even started asking about the claims, and Navy officials and pilots have responded with formal briefings.



The Washington Post provided more details in its own story:
In some cases, pilots—many of whom are engineers and academy graduates—claimed to observe small spherical objects flying in formation. Others say they’ve seen white, Tic Tac–shaped vehicles. Aside from drones, all engines rely on burning fuel to generate power, but these vehicles all had no air intake, no wind and no exhaust.
The Navy knows how this sounds. It knows what you must be thinking. But the fact stands that some pilots are saying they’ve seen strange things in the sky, and that’s concerning. So the Navy is trying to assure pilots that they won’t be laughed out of the cockpit or deemed unhinged if they bring it up. “For safety and security concerns, the Navy and the [U.S. Air Force] takes these reports very seriously and investigates each and every report,” the Navy said in a statement to Politico.
 
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geeeeeeee...

something moving in the 5 digits of speed would probably be invisible to the naked eye...the friction of our atmosphere would cause it to burn...

it's also puzzling why someone capable of intergalactic travel would enter earth's atmosphere and turn on outside lights and/or cabin lights...

:tango_face_plain:
 
#15 ·
remember one day as a teen ager with a few beers in my I thought we were aliens were attacking. Couple buddys and I were coming back from the lake and a few beers in my convertible when we heard a weird noise. Looked up and not much more then tree top height was a sr71. It made noises like no other air plane and we had never even heard about it. Supposidly it was one of the first air shows it was shown at and nobody but the base commander and wing commander knew it was coming. Well we about SH** ourselves. It had to be aliens attacking the afb. We raced through town and headed to the gate of the base and watched it make an approach to land. We were holding our breaths waiting for the death rays to start shooting. Still the most sinister looking plane ever made! By the way we had two majors that for a couple years hunted at our camp. Both 52 pilots and both claim to have seen ufos while crossing the atlantic. Both were level headed no bs kinds of guys.
 
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LOL, sadly yours is just the attitude the pilots are sick of dealing with.

lol I reckon so. But if there really is something to all this it's high time that the government comes out and admits it. That's what I ment, no more speciation and all of the what "ifs".The truth isn't going to hurt us it hasn't so far. Not as much as the denial and the not knowing has. Like here, we have perfectly sane pilots,
both military and commercial. Who know they saw something they couldn't explain.

I wonder how many good pilots have been taken off flight status due to this? And how many of them have
just kept they're mouth shut?
 
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Here is what bothers me about UFO sightings...(I understand that the reports may come from serious, level headed observers). We (the Earth) are not near anything. Both galactic and intergalactic travel involve distances that are pretty much unimaginable and transit times that match. And yet....there have been reports of UFOs since before last century. No contacts. Since the period of observation here on Earth is over a century, it is reasonable to assume that - if there are real ships - they are from different sources (either that or that mother ship has been hanging around unnoticed for quite a while)
Is the Earth a tourist stop?
Given the vastness of space and the time involved in travel, the ships all would have to have left at about the same time and decided to make their way to an Earth that was far, far less advanced than it is now. So...as noted in another post...no emissions to home in on.
Once here....where are they? Where do they go once they have whizzed by? Mother ships (a Hollywood term). Undetected for decades? Transit to and from the MS undetected?
I do not think so.
How many here are familiar with the SETI program run out of UC Berkeley since 1999 - the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 20 years and no contacts. Are we to believe that all of the UFOs slipped by?
note: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/. A useful thing to do with your computer.
 
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Pete I have to agree with you. If they were capable of sending armys here on space ships at a 100 times light speeds one of them would have at least made contact in a way that everyone would know there the badest asses on the block. Why wouldn't they. They sure would have no reason to fear us. My guess is if there really are such a thing as ufo's there flying computers or controlled by ai's because they themselves haven't figured a way to make the body hold up to faster then light speed travel even if they have figured out how to go that fast. Truth be told that even lights speed is the slow lane if your trying to visit other planets and is a snails pace if your talking visiting other galaxys. Your talking years of travel just to come from one of our nearest star systems. We are in the infant stage of sending out satellites to explore. Id think its possible that others are quite a bit ahead of us in that respect but I really don't believe weve been visited by living beings.
Here is what bothers me about UFO sightings...(I understand that the reports may come from serious, level headed observers). We (the Earth) are not near anything. Both galactic and intergalactic travel involve distances that are pretty much unimaginable and transit times that match. And yet....there have been reports of UFOs since before last century. No contacts. Since the period of observation here on Earth is over a century, it is reasonable to assume that - if there are real ships - they are from different sources (either that or that mother ship has been hanging around unnoticed for quite a while)
Is the Earth a tourist stop?
Given the vastness of space and the time involved in travel, the ships all would have to have left at about the same time and decided to make their way to an Earth that was far, far less advanced than it is now. So...as noted in another post...no emissions to home in on.
Once here....where are they? Where do they go once they have whizzed by? Mother ships (a Hollywood term). Undetected for decades? Transit to and from the MS undetected?
I do not think so.
How many here are familiar with the SETI program run out of UC Berkeley since 1999 - the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 20 years and no contacts. Are we to believe that all of the UFOs slipped by?
note: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/. A useful thing to do with your computer.
 
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Pete that's how we perceive things at our present level of technology. If they are real they would have to be
far more advanced than that. The thing about detection is there have been reports of them showing up on radar. Recently an asteroid of fair size did slip through detection and passed between us and the moon.
We didn't see it until it had already passed us by.

I completely agree with you about the vast distances that exist even here in our own solar sytem, much
less anything having to do wth interstellar. That fact alone is always the stumbling block involved in these discussions. Even science fiction movies and books are starting to deal with that reality the best they can.

There is still so much we don't know or understand.
 
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Recently an asteroid of fair size did slip through detection and passed between us and the moon.
The last close encounter that I know about was back in the late winter of 2018. It was not a surprise. (there are videos of its passage)
If you know of another....something that the database of NEOs (Near Earth Objects) missed, please let me have the link or the source. Thanks.
Pete
 
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At the time the Wright brothers were making their flight there were people teaching how impossible it was for a human to fly, next came the speed of sound that "could not be crossed".
Leaning on our own very limited understanding produced these errors.
 
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