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I saw this behind my house 2 days ago . The first thing I thought was a coyote , but the white color and size had me thinking coy-dog . I have had German Shepherds most of my life and this was just as tall as any male GSD , but not as heavy built . The white color is not a pure white , it has a dull pee color tint to it .


It ran of or should say , it loped off when I went outside to the light tree line 300 yards away . I saw it again a couple hours later , then it disappeared again . So I went outside with my grunt call and camera . After a few crying sounds with my grunt call , it came out from around the back of this abandoned house behind my house . I always see a lot of squirrels back there . I was able to get these 2 pictures .


I told my brother-in-law about it and he reminded me of a story that was in the news here in 2009 . A mountain man from Idaho was here visiting his brother and brought his white wolf hybrid with him . They had him in a outside pen while he was visiting and he got lose one night during a thunderstorm and they never found him . There were reports from people seeing him up to 2014 . That has me thinking what I saw was some of his offspring . What y'all think from my bad pictures .
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feed that sweet dog.
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feed that sweet dog.

yes. if you do chose to feed it, be sure and take it to the vet and get its
shots, and keep it as your own or give it to a person that will provide a
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I don't think it's a German Shepard, so, I would kill it to maybe keep someone from getting hurt, like a child.

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Hard to tell. Muzzle doesn't look sharp enough for coyote and neck is too thick, but tail looks right. Ears appear to be pink inside suggesting dog. Hybrids frequently are not able to reproduce, so wolf-dog descendant is unlikely. Might be coy-dog or just a dog that looks like a coyote.

You might check with local game warden to see if there are known feral dogs in your area. One would not want to shoot someone's pet just out on a walkabout. That fact that it did not run, but loped away suggests it may not be feral or coyote or coyote hybrid. However, feral dogs (and cats) are undesirable and breeding packs are a threat to wildlife and domestic stock, and sometimes people.
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When a dog attacks, it's more vicious than wild canines in most instances.
I might take the above advice and contact the game warden. He would know if there's been complaints.

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I am in a neighborhood , so I can not shot it . I did call animal control and there were no other reports of it and they wouldn't come out from my description , thinking it was a coy-dog .
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We kill a lot of coyote dog crosses in Iowa. After doing it for 40 years I have come to believe that these crosses carry a lot more of the coyote trait than that from the dog side. The size of the critter and tracks in the snow are the most tell tale signs. Sometimes you can see a difference in the eyes too. For instance one that looks like coyote in every way except weighs 63 lbs and has Malamute looking eyes. Such a coyote was killed here-a-bouts a couple of years ago. Coyote tracks always go in a straight line while coyote dog cross often have a canter....A pure coyote that is caught in a trap usually cowers when you walk up to it unless you have the alpha male or old brood bitch. Even then they will arch their back and tuck their tail. A dog cross is apt to do anything like hit the end of the chain repeatedly or is more apt to come for you.

A few years back we had a steady run of killing large dark male coyotes. They were using dens and living the coyote life. It seemed like they were getting bigger and darker every year. Then the mystery was solved when one of the guys in the group killed a 70 pound black German Shepherd that came out of coyote den that he was set up on. He looked to be 8 years old. He had started off breeding coyotes and then their offspring until they looked more like a dog than a coyote. That was 15 years ago and those genes are still out there in NE Jasper county Iowa. I saw one when while bird hunting a few weeks ago. Very dark and huge for Iowa. He was 1 mile from where my buddy killed that Shepherd 15 years ago.

The one in the OP's picture looks all dog to me! Nose and ears aren't right for coyote traits.
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The one in the OP's picture looks all dog to me! Nose and ears aren't right for coyote traits.
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I'm not speaking of others, but northeastern coyotes, are not coydogs, but coywolves.. For years, people called them coydogs, but several universities have studied them and came to the conclusion of a coywolf.

http://theconversation.com/why-the-e...-coywolf-59214

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