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Yeah when I lived in NM both AZ and NM allowed open carry but not concealed. At that time in my life I carried concealed all the time. No such things as metal dectors back in those days. Of course when out in the hills I open carried. But in town it was concelled.

Itís really not hard to conceal a full size 1911 if you just dress a little differently.

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well i conseal carry or open , depending on where im going or how im dressed, or whether im riding my motorcycle or driving my suv .
this G35 carries ok , but to carry it consealed , i jacket or long shirt is required really
i should point out that i dont very often carry inside the waistband..

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Don't be so modest Dee.

I think you have in fact created the term "fighting size pistol."

And, your descrtption of the parameters is excellent.

I think we should add it to Wikeapedia, and give you the credit.

Course, since we don't know your real name, we'll have to refer to you as "Dee Graybeard." :-)


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25 years ago we called your 'fighting size' pistol a serious handgun. The category encompassed service or compact sized pistols & revolvers in calibers that started with a 4. I see nothing available today that renders these parameters irrelevant.

The 357 was acceptable assuming good competency on the user's part and that it was loaded with serious ammo, such as Federal's 125 grain magnum load. The same company's 9BPLE load that rivals it and may be considered interchangeable for those who favor light bullets. I am not among them. A good part of my LE career was spent in areas where every third dirtbag had one or more large, mean attack dogs which they occasionally turned outside when the cops showed up. Having a couple of 125-150 pound Mastiff/Pit mixes bearing down on you at Warp Murder is an excellent catalyst for resolving the question of what constitutes a 'serious handgun'.
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what is your opinion of the 357sig applied to the fighting pistol role ?

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I've never seen it used Dave, though I have shot a few. I did see a 357 Sig load mentioned that sends a 65 grain Lehigh FMJ at 2100 fps and that should ruin an active shooters day if he is wearing conventional body armor.

Otherwise, no capacity advantage over the 40 and I personally prefer the larger, heavier bullet.
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what is your opinion of the 357sig applied to the fighting pistol role ?
You mean a slightly "souped up 9mm".

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You mean a slightly "souped up 9mm".
i'll admit that .. im just not sure that in of itself is a bad thing

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I've never seen it used Dave, though I have shot a few. I did see a 357 Sig load mentioned that sends a 65 grain Lehigh FMJ at 2100 fps and that should ruin an active shooters day if he is wearing conventional body armor.

Otherwise, no capacity advantage over the 40 and I personally prefer the larger, heavier bullet.
i think all things being equal ( as we can get them anyhow ) a 180 grain .40 cal bullet is hard to beat and its my preferred round,

but for some reason i want to like the 357sig .. dont own one and im looking for an excuse to run out and get one

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