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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 11-28-2018, 01:51 PM Thread Starter
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I like the eye relief. They have perfect sight picture at the right distance to keep from eating the scope on hard recoiling guns.
This reminds me of a story.....but then when you get to be my age everything reminds you of a story.

A few years back Grinnell College(second most liberal college west of the Mississippi...second to Berkley) purchased some timber south of town. It was to be a sanctuary to study nature and botany. The problem was the deer ate everything that they planted. Along comes a new professor from the east cost that decides to cull the herd. This is where the story really starts. I am at the gun counter at the local Theisens farm store. The professor is there at the counter buying a slug gun. A NEF single shot 12 gauge slug gun. I am waiting patiently in line and enjoying the professor and clerks discussion. Neither knew squat diddly! The professor was now looking at scopes to put on his new slug gun. He looked at several different 4X scopes. The cheapest scope was a Barska 4X Rimfire scope. To the professor it was as clear as the others and he could see from one end of the store to the other just fine. I had to speak up and tell him that wasn't the right choice for his gun. i told him that he needed more eye relief than the rimfire scope afforded him. He blew me off and took his rifle and scope and a new set of rings home to put together. Two days later I am at the post office in line to mail some stuff and after I complete my business I turn to leave. There standing three people behind me is the professor sporting a huge black eye and stitches in his unibrow. I couldn't help it I had to smile and say..."scope got ya didn't it?".............
...Another educated imbecile ?

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...Another educated imbecile ?
Yup, educated in one regard but still an imbecile! Still in the woods worshipping the plant life no doubt!
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Yup, educated in one regard but still an imbecile! Still in the woods worshipping the plant life no doubt!

Maybe he goes out in the woods, sits cross-legged...and voices.....ooomm...ooomm

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Red dot sights have their place, but for me I haven't found where that place might be!

I bought one and put it on a .22 to try and after using it for a while decided it wasn't for me. Like the OP said in the early morning or just before dark I had to turn it way down to the lowest setting to even make it usable. And ironically these are the times of day I thought it would be most useful. And just like anything battery operated they only fail when you need them most!

I either use a scope, or on some guns firesights and much prefer either of those to a red dot sight.
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For most of us with aged eyes, the good old peep sight is still an option. I have a receiver sight on a Stevens 66 Buckhorn, with which at 50 yards I can shoot a clay pigeon...then shoot up each of the pieces of that clay pigeon..


Sice the sights are closer to the bore than a scope, it s especially good for short to medium range squirrels.

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Red dots work best when used along with a light of some sort. My EOteck worked good with a rail mounted flashlight for night hunting hogs. But thatís not a legal setup for deer in my state.

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i didn't have any mechanical malfunction with the red dot sights
i tried. i did get tired of twisting the knob back and forth to change
the brightness as the daylight shifted from dawn to bright midday
back to dusky dark. the only way i know to have it right is to keep
mounting the red dot equipped gun to your shoulder periodically to
check for a proper sight picture. if you have to do that, you might
as well be waving your arms about, and jogging in place. not very
stealthy while hunting wary animals.
myself, i also went back to a plain scope. always "on" and no batteries
to worry with, no knobs to fiddle with. if it's too dark in the morning,
it's likely not light enough to be legal shooting hours, same for the
late evening. of course, being able to "see in the dark" is a big selling
point for optics manufacturers in their advertisements. really another
answer to one of those questions that don't exist.

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I have never liked red dot sights. The first time I looked through a Weaver QuikPoint and the first Aimpoint I was like- huh?

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Red dots work best when used along with a light of some sort. My EOteck worked good with a rail mounted flashlight for night hunting hogs.
This is my experience as well.

Looking through a scope at an illuminated dot when you are aiming at a target that isn't illuminated, just doesn't work.

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Peep sight in the rear, blade (post) in the front makes the rifle a whole lot easier to carry than any scope mounted on top, in my experience.

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