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post #61 of 67 (permalink) Old 01-01-2020, 06:40 AM
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35s are really appreciated by casters because at least in my opinion if your going to shoot big game with a cast bullet the 35 is about as small as you want to go. Ive seen a big difference between the 30s and the 35s in killing deer bear and pigs.

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Actually the 348 Win.is mucho better then the 356 or 358Win.

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Actually the 348 Win.is mucho better then the 356 or 358Win.

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I had my 30-30 re-bored out to a 356Win. And I love it. Primarily shooting 220gr Speers for now. No recoil issues. Winchester still does their annual runs of 356W brass. I just bought another 200 rounds of brass off Powder Valley. And Sportsmans always has the 220gr Speers in stock for cheap. We used to harvest elk with 170gr bullets out of a 30-30 (short ranges as it's thick forests in Roosevelt elk country), but the 220gr 356W gives quite a bit more power for those uses.


I have some 250gr Beartooth GC cast bullets for my 35 Whelen that I was contemplating trying to load in my 356W this summer. Might require a modification to fit and crimp properly, but we'll see. Haven't started casting my own lead bullets yet, but the Beartooth bullets are great quality.
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The 348 May be better, but bullet selection and ease of obtaining a rifle makes the 356 an easier choice. That said, the animal shot with either will not see a difference.
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I respectfully disagree. The oddball brass and oddball bullet diameter work against the .348 for me. That and the fact that it was only offered in one rifle- the Winchester 71. Years after the .307 and .356 Winchester cartridges had failed commercially Marlin gave it a go with their .308 and .338 Marlin Express cartridges- same result. Hunters want light and handy in a lever action rifle, so the 30-30, .35 Rem, and 45-70 continue on. I'd love to have a .356 in a Marlin 336 so I could use reformed .308 brass ( I'm told by many that it works) because of the versatility of hundreds of .358" bullet choices. When hunters want more range and power from a hunting rifle, they usually choose a bolt action to get it. My 3 cents worth is all.

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I respectfully disagree. The oddball brass and oddball bullet diameter work against the .348 for me. That and the fact that it was only offered in one rifle- the Winchester 71. Years after the .307 and .356 Winchester cartridges had failed commercially Marlin gave it a go with their .308 and .338 Marlin Express cartridges- same result. Hunters want light and handy in a lever action rifle, so the 30-30, .35 Rem, and 45-70 continue on. I'd love to have a .356 in a Marlin 336 so I could use reformed .308 brass ( I'm told by many that it works) because of the versatility of hundreds of .358" bullet choices. When hunters want more range and power from a hunting rifle, they usually choose a bolt action to get it. My 3 cents worth is all.

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I agree with you, to disagree with @HUNTZ. Nothing any .348 can do that a quality .358 cannot better. When you can buy factory ammo that will throw a 180gr TSX bullet @ 2800, faster than a typical '06 180gr load, and also a 225gr TSX @ 2500 or a 225gr PSP @ 2545, you've gone beyond .348 performance. But as many are prone to say, not sure the animal will know which took it out. I know I'd prefer having that 225gr TSX as my load with a big bear as my target. YMMV.
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