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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info guys.

I was in a pawnshop last Monday, and they had a Savage-Fox-Sterlingworth on the rack. (Probably one of the last ones assembled, with serial range being 376xxx) The outside of the gun and the bores looked like just a medium amount of honest wear. When you closed it up, it was really tight.

The shop owner told me it was really valuable, and they were only asking $995.

I then gave it a closer look and handed it back. When the action was open, the hinge creaked noticeably from side to side. And, I measured the barrels at 27 inches. The face end of the barrels had a spot of solder that had been inserted into a gap between the barrels and then filed down.

Told the owner that someone had sawed this gun off, resulting in absolutely no chokes. And, that the action had been abused. He made no reply and put it back up on the rack.


By the way, how come the hinges creak side to side, and how much does it cost for a smith to fix that? Plainly, it is not the same issue as the lever being to the left.


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By the way, how come the hinges creak side to side, and how much does it cost for a smith to fix that?


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That's not a big deal to fix, I don't know what a smith would charge because anytime I've run into that I just fixed it myself. The forend spacer isn't tight up against the hinge when that happens. All you have to do is take the forend spacer off and shim it with something in between the forend and spacer. I've used duct tape but you can use other things too. You just cut it smaller than the width and height of the spacer that way it's not noticeable when you put it back together.

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Well, first question is, where was the lever when it was new?
Do you know for a fact that it was to the right, or was it centered?

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the way they regulate barrels on doubles, leaves visible solder at the muzzle

perhaps the same with a shotgun?

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Good Question Nanuck,

Don't know much about this stuff, but the online sources I consulted said that the barrels on a Sterlingworth should virtually touch each other at the muzzle end. The one I looked at had a 1/8th to 1/4 inch gap, filled with solder in a strange pattern. So, this one may have originally been 30 inches, and cut down to 27.

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Gunfixr,

Being a novice as to sxs, I have no idea whether original Sterlingworths had their levers to the right when new. My only experience have been with the SKB 100s and Browning SXS, and all of them had their levers markedly to the right when new. (Same with the Citories).

Beginning to think that trying to buy a classic American sxs is so thoroughly fraught with risks and issues, that it may not be worth it. As I have mentioned, I am sick of buying problems and projects..

I guess that leaves the Ithaca-SKBs, true Japanese with the unattractive light colored stocks. Just need to check the scallops in the buttstock.

I see some good prices on Stevens Savage Model 5100s, in 16 gauge, in good looking shape. Just not sure how much shooting they can handle, and I have no idea how to adjust the forend screws so that the barrels will drop open and stay open for easy reloading with one hand.

On a different note, I once borrowed someone's Browning 20 gauge sxs for two seasons, with 26 inch barrels. Choked modified and IC. Used if for quail and dove. I kid you not, but I absolutely could not hit a single thing with that gun! Was very used to seeing birds fall from the sky when I unleashed the fury of my 12 gauge Lightweight Browning Auto-5 on them with 1 oz gameloads. (It kinda fired like one of those WWII German anti-aircraft guns.) That experience turned me against sxs for the last 30 years. But, those Brownings are way too heavy for me to carry anymore.


By the way, at the gunshow last week, I saw a used Ugartechea Dickenson 20 gauge for sale. At the end of the show, the guy was only asking $350 (down from $450). But, it only had 26 inch barrels, and the grip cap was broken in half, and the thick plastic-like finish was badly cracked and falling off all along both sides of the buttstock where the wood meets the receiver. It was also flaking off along the entire top comb of the gun. It was also way way too light for my taste. Probably a good project gun for someone, but I can't afford projects anymore.

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I see some good prices on Stevens Savage Model 5100s, in 16 gauge, in good looking shape. Just not sure how much shooting they can handle, and I have no idea how to adjust the forend screws so that the barrels will drop open and stay open for easy reloading with one hand.

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saw this awhile back got acouple 311's, a 5100, and a couple savages, haven't tried it yet but am planning to.
http://www.rucascowboys.com/stevensmod.htm

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saw this awhile back got acouple 311's, a 5100, and a couple savages, haven't tried it yet but am planning to.
http://www.rucascowboys.com/stevensmod.htm
I never realized there was a fix for this although I've never considered it a big deal because mine is used for hunting. I did some searching and saw this, it looks like Numrich sells the part to fix this issue: http://marauder.homestead.com/stevens311.html

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It is a huge problem if you are trying to shoot dove. :-)
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I'm jealous that you get to shoot doves, we aren't allowed to hunt them here. Unless you count "rock doves" AKA pigeons.

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