I guess I'll have to stick to my 870, I bought it new in the 60s and it still looks new. I am a fanatic about guns, I'd rather eat bees than scratch a gun. If I buy something new I won't use it, I will just keep on using the old. I guess it is the product of growing up, never had anything new. I admire the purdys and all of the fancy shotguns just don't want one and wouldn't dream of hunting with it if I had one. I still buy the kinds of things I couldn't afford before but those are just kindof standard grade items.