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i have a sporterized 98 mauser in 8x57 and next year i'm either going to rebore or rebarrel to the 400 whelen. (read https://web.archive.org/web/20101203...pace_myth.htm# to headspace it). i was going to do the 375 whelen but i already have a 9.3x57(.366"). and i can say that 4-something something!

since 150 lbs whitetails will be its main course, i'll only go 1600-1800fps in 350-400gr fn gc. i hunt in close cover, so 60+ yards is a loooong shot, 25-35 yards is more likely.

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i've been thinking of taking it to JES(i like that peep sight) but i might rebarrel it to 24"(it has a 22" barrel). i doubt that extra 2" is a make or break situation, but i like the 24" over the 22". the 98 mauser NEEDS a timney trigger and i'll go with richard's stock( Richards Microfit Gunstocks ), it will be a wolverine style and either a blue coral or black walnut stock.

i doubt highly that i'll get the chance to hunt elk or moose, but my sons' might and i'll just happen to have a rifle that they can use....it sounds good, don't it!!!

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Ever seen a 400 Whalen. What is the parent case.
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the 30-06 is the parent case.
you can do a 35 whelen case. quality cartridge ( https://www.qual-cart.com/400%20cal.htm ) has 400 whelen basic cases.

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If could do over from years ago, would chambered for a Whelen wildcat for sure.
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http://www.finegunmaking.com/page33/page51/page51.html
http://www.finegunmaking.com/page33/page52/page52.html
https://www.qual-cart.com/400%20cal.htm


these pictures are not mine, but they are 400 whelen.

i think that mr. petrov had it right- "The .30-06, .25 Whelen (.25-06), .35 Whelen and .38 Whelen all have a shoulder diameter of .441. “The ORIGINAL .400 Whelen shoulder is .458". "
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I like your thinking. I remember way back when a certain fell named Professor Murphy made a statement that the only cartridge made off of the parent cartridge 30-06 that was actually better than the 30-06 was the 338-06. So I built one. Then I built a 35 Whelen, then a 375 Whelen. I never built a 400 Whelen but should have. I heard all of the nonsense about head spacing off a narrow shoulder would lead to grief. It won't be a problem. I have shot and loaded several rounds since those days with diminutive shoulders and never had an issue. Heck if a 450 Bushmaster can head space off of just the case mouth. The shoulder on the 400 Whelen has to be a god send.

Go for it. I am looking forward to the outcome.!
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You will have 1 very aggravating problem with that round. I have a .411 Hawk, which is the same thing, and you will find that you have to be very careful with the shoulder. It does not take much to bump it and mess up your head space. If I was to build it again I would go with the 338 cal.
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