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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 10-16-2019, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thinking about trying lead bullets, something like the Laser Cast or Oregon Trail 405 gr. Any tried these on deer? A good powder and starting load for at least 1300 fps?
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My 5 star load (Hunting) in (my) Handi 45/70 is 25.5 grains 2400 with 1/2 grain dacron /FLRP/starline brass/N.O.E.350 grain G.C.(B.H.N.is 12) . The velocity for this load is A/1528 B/1508 C/1502 D/1471 E/1512 with an SD 20.9 @ 100 yds it will hold 2 inch groups 6 inch high and at 200 yds I use the lower post on my Leuopold 2x7 to hit POA The many deer hit with that load leave a blood trail Ray Charles could follow And he was dead and blind too ,almost forgot recoil is like shooting a 30-30 ! Ed
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have done that ,I only used blackhorn
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It's a 45/70, any flatnose design at 13-1500 fps is gonna make venison. I personally use a slightly compressed load of IMR7383 surplus 50cal spotter powder for such loads. But that is mostly because I bought a metric crap ton of it cheap and it works very well. I have also used a duplex load of 4198 and various 50BMG surplus powders. Not gonna hand that load out though. My H&R 22 inch Handi Rifle hate hate hated any of the 2400 and filler type loads. Fill the case up with slow powder and a 457122, or my custom 405 grain flatnose mould and she prints tiny groups though. I use lead pipe alloy and all is good with the world. I use a pretty full case of REL 7 for my more "energetic" loads, but I do not shoot many of them cause I am a wuss.

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Whatís the rifle? Iím curious but not for pressure reasons as you stated 1300 ft/s. A single shot is easily cleaned but lever actions arenít that much of a problem. You canít go wrong with 65-70 grains of 3f dropped slowly through a drop tube and compressed so that a soft lead bullet sits on top of powder column and a milk carton wad. A black powder lube is called for and there are plenty of recipes on the net. I use Gato Feoís #1 (search on Graybeard forum). One word of caution, shooting black powder is highly addictive and detox has a high failure rate.
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I have two, a Handi and a new Henry. I can't handle the hard kicking loads anymore and figured the 1300-1500 would be a good range.
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