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Sightron S1 and S2 series scopes are made in the Philippines. S3 and SV series scopes are made in Japan. Lot's of fans. I recall when they first came on the market back in the mid 90's. They were offered for a good price and have a good reputation. They are owned by a Japanese company specializing in microscopes. I may need to look through one if I see one at a gun shop.

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so you have your choice. You can buy commie Korean or Chinese optics. You can buy german or jap optics from the people who killed our grandparents or you can buy AMERICAN. But cheap kind of rules that out. Like was said a number of times your only real choice is a leupold. but they don't make 100 dollar scopes. But if your budget is 200 or a bit more there as good as anything that's imported so its a no brainer.
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I've purchased 5 Sig Sauer scopes, one Whiskey 5, 1-5x20 with illuminated reticle and four Whiskey 3, in 3-9x40, three with illuminated reticle, one without. I don't think you can find a better value than a Whiskey 3 at these prices:

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Box says Designed in Oregon, assembled in the Philippines.
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ive got a couple 3x9 sigs that I picked up on sale for a bit over a 100 bucks. Probably not a better bang for the buck on the market. But im about bet the house that the glass comes from china. I don't think theres lenses being produced in the Philippians. Its china, japan, germany or the USA for glass. German glass is expensive! Decent Jap glass is probably still to expensive for cheap scopes as is American. Bottom line is decent cheap glass about all comes from china.

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When it comes to the source of glass different scope and binocular manufacturers use in their products things get murky. It appears that Leopold may use some Japanese glass and Burris may use some from the Philippines. They just don't publish the source country for all their parts. You really have no way of knowing.

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True dave. Its like cars and trucks. NONE of them are totally made in America. About all of them outsorce at least some part even if its just electronics. All a guy can do is support the most American one. Buy a f150 and it gives americans more jobs and more money to our economy then if you buy a Nissan or Toyota where a good portion of the profits go into the Jap economy. All you can do is buy the one that gives more jobs to americans then it does to other countrys. Again that brings us back to leupold and burris if your truly more concerned with made in America over price. But finding anything truly a 100 percent made in America is pretty tough today. Wife picked me up a "trump 2020" hat the other day and I looked at the tag and it was made in china! Buy a cheap American flag and look where it came from. Bet you it wasn't Mayberry NC!
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I wouldn't buy an American flag if it wasn't made in U.S.A. period
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i wont either but LOTS of people will. Americans for the most part don't even look at where there products are made today. Some will say they wont buy a flag but will buy clothes, hats and even cars and trucks that aren't made here or the majority of the profits benefit someone in a foreign country not our own. We have opened the door to letting them undercut American products in price. Walmart has made BILLIONS selling stuff from china and other countrys and people will do a majority of there shopping there and totally ignore where the stuff comes from but complain about where a flag was made. Im not saying its you MRK. But I was personaly attacked by a whole bunch on this very forum when I said I wouldn't by 22 shells at Walmart if they were the last 22 shells in the country. Another one is how many here saving they wont buy a Chinese scope have no problem buying wolf ammo for there guns?

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Some things I have no choice to buy from china, but the American flag I do
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other then electronics you for the most part don't have to by anything from across the pond. It is a choice. Might cost a bit more but so be it. People today are short sighted. All they think about is there wallet and give little thought to the jobs other americans loose because they don't make those choices. Im not throwing rocks in a glass house. Im guilty at times too. But if you just draw the line at flags your not helping much. buying a 50k imported truck does a lot more harm to our job economy and the country then buying a 15 dollar imported flag.
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