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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-04-2019, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Default Ruger American 450 Bushmaster and cast bullets?

I have roughly 3,000 .452 255 grain lead bullets molded,powder coated for my 45 Colt guns. Some of them are mixed with linotype and test around 20-22 bht. I'd sure like to load my 450 Bushmaster with 12-15 grains of Unique with these hard 255 grainers then shoot deer with them.

They would be plenty of thump for deer and easy on my retirement funds as well.

Are any of you guys rolling your own 450 ammo with cast bullets?
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sure would work on deer out to a 100 yards but if your gun is like my buddys 450 American I really doubt there going to run smoothly. About the only bullet that does is that Hornady pointed plastic tipped bullet. But for deer hunting it wouldn't be that much of a disadvantage just to single load them.

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sorry I slipped up. His gun is a hawkeye scout

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I am going to try it. I bought 100 brass at Brownell's last night and went home to start the process and realized that I in fact did not have any 450 Dies. I thought sure that I bought a set when my son bought his 450 AR but they aren't on the pile. I looked through my Brownell's receipts and none of them show that I bought any dies. Old and senile is what I have become. Tonight after work or at lunch I will remedy the die situation.

I am going to try not crimping them at all. Just take the bell out and leave the case straight. I do it all the time on light 44 mag and 45 Colt loads and never have any problem with the bullets in the remaining cylinders moving in the case under recoil. Hot loads are a different story. I don't see recoil being a problem with a 250 grain slug leaving the bore at 12-1500 ftps in the 450 Bushmaster. If I am wrong I will taper crimp them a bit. Also I only bell them enough to prevent lead shaving as they go into the case. I have come to learn that the less belling/ crimping that one does the longer the case will last before splitting at the mouth.

Last year I took a 30 gallon drum full of spent brass pistol cases to the salvage yard. It was my 40+ year accumulation of cases with split mouths from multiple reloadings. I know some guys anneal even pistol cases, I am not one of them.

I have had so many guns in my lifetime that it's hard to get excited about a new one but this 450 Bushmaster has me anxious to play with it for some reason. I guess it fits into a niche that I need to fill. A straight wall bolt gun for hunting deer in Iowa. I like the way it feels too!
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Ok, I got some of my own powder coated cast bullets stuffed into some of those 450 Bushmaster cases. I started out with 10.5 grains of Unique and loaded 5 rounds increasing the charge in .2 grain increments at a time until I got to 12 grains. 12 grains should get me 13-1400 fps out of the 16 inch barrel. If they will shoot into 2 inches at 100 yards I will be satisfied that I have a good hunting load. I can shoot no better than 2 inches @ 100 yards in a hunting type situation anyway.

I will put my rounds to the test this weekend and let you know how it went.
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I have been hunting mine all week

Im using a Lyman Gould Express bullet @ 330g HP on top Of 30g 5744 fpr a vel from my 16” bbl of 1580 avg.
The accuracy is stacking bullets @ 50 and about 1.5 out @ 100.

I cast then in WW and powder coat them. I tried to load to suggested 1400 fps but accuracy was poor. Once I hit 30 they tightened right up!

I have a number of appropriate molds. All shoot good some very good. Nothing lighter then 290g nothing heavier than this 330g

Only bullet that causes feeding issues is the LEE 300 WFN. And that one will feel If I stuff it deep.

The Lyman 457191 and this 457121 are both excellent.

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Thanks for the feedback cwlongshot. A larger mold may be in order if these won't fly straight. I have a full five gallon bucket of ingots left in the shop. These 250s shoot real well in my 45 Colts so it isn't like they will go to waste if they don't work in the 450. I am not at all opposed to going to one of the Lyman molds if that's what it takes to make it shoot well and I'm pretty sure a bigger boolit won't matter to the deer either cuz dead is dead. I love the platform that composes this little Ruger American.

Thanks for the tips!
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I have a few squirreled away Speer 260 HP boxes. I loaded up some under a healthy charge of #9. MOA was result & 2200 fps...

NOT a deer bullet at lhat speed as they worked great thirty years ago on deer @ 1100 fps... But ill smack a coyote!!

I tried a few 250 ish and altho nothing shot badly. A 300+ @ about 14-1600 shoots very nice and is less recoil that factory too

My second load is a 225 Copper HP. U der #9 for 2350 fps. Shoots touching @ 100 and very light recoil.

Dinny shot some into his bullet box and nose pedals came off @ 2200 impact vel. But good pen depth! The bullets are made by Magtech and designed for the 454. So my vel isnt crazy. Plus they where CHEAP!!!

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This first pic is the Lyman 290 & 330g

Second is a powder coated seated 330 Gould Express in a Bushmaster case. Sized .454.

Third is the business end of that 225g Copper HP
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