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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-28-2019, 07:45 AM Thread Starter
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Default I picked up a presidential gun reciently

A S&W 642 38 special. I owned one in Alaska and carried it as a town gun. Ran across one at a very good price so I bought it.

I havenít shot it yet. Not sure how the hump on the back will treat my thumb when I fire it but I will see. If itís too painful Iíll just keep it in my drawer for emergency use. It the 642 airweight. Very lite. I loaded it up with federal 158 gr nyclad HP loads. Old school but a effective police load from days gone by.

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Now that I have become proficient at shooting a snubby in the DA mode I consider the 642 one of the best for CCW. My SP101 feels like a boat anchor in comparison. I also see no point in going with a 357 in a snubby. The burn volume for the extra powder just isn't there. The 38 and 357 are tit for tat in a snubby.

I'd say you made a real good find!

Also i don't think you will find that hump to be a problem. In my opinion the hump enhance the grip!

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The hump gives you a higher hold which helps with muzzle flip. I shoot 158 GR SWCHP. A plus p load but all lead so recoil is not bad. I will add and take it for what it is worth. I have shot gallon water jugs with a 340 pd , 357 and 38 spl. The difference is dramatic . So there is a difference. I have use a 357 and s 38 as a finishing shot on deer. In both cases same shot placement at back of head nither was a pass through. My thought was the 38 did not have the power or expanded to much to make it through and the 357 expanded using up energy . Both worked. The 357 was a 125 GR jhp the 38 was the load mentioned above. The 357 is a hand full making a second shot slower. IMHO a plus p 38 is a good choice.

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My 642 sure feels good in my front pants pocket. Loaded it dose not print or pull my pants down. Itís just right.

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Great to hear, I am enjoying my 642 as well, may not get used to the "ignition switch" and have found very complete videos on removing it. Have also heard of it going into safe mode on it's own don't know how that could happen but once would be too much for a personal protection tool.
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The 642 and 442 can both be had without the lock. A gun shop here carries both. I have read where the 38s have not had a problem with the lock engauging it has been the lightweight magnums doing so.yes front pocket carry is just right. Been carrying that way since VA started shall issue. I use a Back Woods pocket holster that I get the maker to add a thin plastic sheet on the side away from my body. I also carry a very old model S&W 38 which has the shourded hammer so in my pocket if it shows at all the squarish shape looks like a wallet. So if someone wants my wallet suprised 😉
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I also see no point in going with a 357 in a snubby. The burn volume for the extra powder just isn't there. The 38 and 357 are tit for tat in a snubby.


Measurements say otherwise.

Some numbers from www.ballisticsbytheinch.com

Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .38 = 675fps,
Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .357 = 928fps

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Federal 125gr JHP 2".38 = 700fps
Federal 125gr JHP 2".357 = 949fps

A .357 out of a 2" barrel performs about the same as a .38 out of a 4" barrel, and out of a 3" barrel, a .357 will outperform a .38 from just about any (regular) length handgun barrel.

If you can stomach the recoil of a .357, it's the way to go.

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I also see no point in going with a 357 in a snubby.
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Measurements say otherwise.

Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .38 = 675fps,
Cor Bon 110 gr 2" barrel .357 = 928fps

and

Federal 125gr JHP 2".38 = 700fps
Federal 125gr JHP 2".357 = 949fps
Ya know, for all these years I have been of the same opinion as gpa&hisguns. I have never even considered a snubby in .357...

Just shows ta go ya that you shouldn't dismiss things out of hand when a little research can give you facts!

Not that I'm rethinking my preference for large calibers at moderate velocities mind you!

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there ain't nuttin' wrong with a 38 special when talking about SD close encounters application

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there ain't nuttin' wrong with a 38 special when talking about SD close encounters application
Agree! A whole lot less noise too.
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