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Default Odd 20th century signal cannon dug up in Charleston

A friend of mine picked this up a few days ago and asked for my help identifying it. The person he purchased it from said it was "dug up" outside Charleston. Now we know it is not very old but the corrosion on it makes me believe it is possible.

It weighs maybe 50-60 pounds and there are no markings to be found. It has a brass turnbuckle that could adjust the elevation and the trunnions I believe are threaded into the carriage and rest in recesses in the barrel. They are not physically part of the barrel itself.

The barrel retains some "battleship" gray paint and the carriage has some black. Lots of searching online has not yielded anything remotely similar. So I thought I would reach out to everyone here for some assistance.

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If carriage was arc welded, that could help date it.
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Explain those trunnion to me. Are you saying they are just threaded bolts that screw through the carriage cheeks and into recesses in the barrel. The barrel rotates and the bolts don't?

This barrel says hobby shop built to me. Actually kind of pleasing in appearance, What is the diameter of the bore? What is the diameter of the barrel over the chamber area.

I don't think this thing was dug up somewhare as much as dug out from someones barn or old garage in a damp climate.

If dimensions are right this might clean up into a pretty nice old signal gun. Hone the bore, wire brush off the rust, paint it...

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Explain those trunnion to me. Are you saying they are just threaded bolts that screw through the carriage cheeks and into recesses in the barrel. The barrel rotates and the bolts don't?

This barrel says hobby shop built to me. Actually kind of pleasing in appearance, What is the diameter of the bore? What is the diameter of the barrel over the chamber area.

I don't think this thing was dug up somewhare as much as dug out from someones barn or old garage in a damp climate.

If dimensions are right this might clean up into a pretty nice old signal gun. Hone the bore, wire brush off the rust, paint it...
And perturb the pleasant patina? Just remove loose rust, oil, and leave it. If you destroy the vintage surface, you can’t get it back.
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"Perturb the Patina" Good one John. Not a bad idea..
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It certainly has "patina" to spare and I wouldn't dream of destroying it, but I might well feel the need to "preserve" it under a good coat of paint.

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I wold someone homebuilt project also.


As far as cleaning/preserving. All I would do lightly clean the loose scale with fine brushes and coat it with a layer of Linseed Oil. It would retain the Patina but look nice.
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I wold someone homebuilt project also.


As far as cleaning/preserving. All I would do lightly clean the loose scale with fine brushes and coat it with a layer of Linseed Oil. It would retain the Patina but look nice.



Linseed oil! Best suggestion so far. It will look rich!
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I had to look but hex head bolts can date back to about 1840. I thought it was later then that. With machine cut threads and the condition I'm guessing not as old as it appears. As cannonmn suggested -any signs of modern welds?

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