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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-10-2019, 01:56 PM
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A round in the .303 British category would be nice, but there goes ammo availability..and I believe the bullets are .311 rather than .308..


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don't they offer 308 Win?
that would have a bit more punch to boot
you wouldn't have to form brass

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I had my Ruger #1B rechambered to 30-06 A.I. and love it. Nice mouse fart loads with cast bullets for fire-forming loads and loads using 180 gr. GameKings for more serious stuff.

Then one day while at the local Sheriff's office range a guy that used to be the gunsmith for the SO saw me shooting my NEF 30/30. He asked if I would let him re-chamber it to 30/30 A.I. I'd been wanting to have it done for about 30 years, so I said yes. He took it home and a month later brought it back to the range. Meanwhile I was loading some mouse fart loads for it with 160 gr. Lee bullets. I have since that time fired all of my light loads, but have a whole pile of regular loads that my youngest son used to use when he took my rifle hunting. I've never killed anything with that rifle that I can recall, but he's killed a pickup truck full of deer with it until he got his own rifle. Now I just use it to kill paper at the range. But my brass comes out so nice., and seldom needs trimming. The only ones that I have trimmed were some that probably needed it when they were regular 30/30 loads. THe 30-06 a.i. brass has yet to need trimming.

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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-16-2019, 10:00 PM
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Consider the 7-30 Waters. It is a blown out 30-30 case necked to 7mm. I have taken whitetails with it in 14 pistol and 23 carbine barreled Continders. Faster than a 30-30. Cases easily formed from 30-30 brass. I load 120 grain Hornady for mine. Use same bullet in my 7-08 and 280 bolt rifles.
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Yes, the consistent positioning of the round in the chamber contributes much to accuracy. MUCH. A rim dictates that area conclusively. Mr. Ackley suggested that the .30/30 AI made the winchesters and marlins almost the equal of the .300 Savage 99. Long proven as adequate in the deer woods. I would add, since you are "brain storming" that now the legendary .308 is also available with a rim. AKA .307 WCF. I believe a single shot barrel in the T/C family can be set up with an extractor that will work with either the rimless round or the rimmed version. Along these lines, Mike Bellm, who bought out Mr. Ackley, long ago developed a line of rounds using .444 Rem brass and shell holder and body dies for the .308 member desired. .358 down. [ bellmtcs.com ] Making a decision can be a challenge. I would remember all the 7.62 NATO ammo out there. Free .30/'06 cases helped to "make" the .270 which is just a .27/'06. (When surplus Springfields with walnut stocks were $18.00 REA to your door, ammo was $0.01 per round...) Long ago. Happy Trails.
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