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02-20-2017 02:09 PM
lloyd smale I can see your dilemma. For where your at it makes sense.
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The DNR won't give me a ticket for using a 357max, where as they would a 35 Rem. As long as pistol caliber rifles are still allowed in MI limited firearms zone. It's true you can't use any bullet, but there are enough bullet choices out there that finding one for deer isn't an issue. I've got quite a few of the excellent speer 180gr FN which should be able to get up to 2200fps to 2300fps with a 20" barrel, or 180gr xtp, 180gr rem, or since basically you're at 35rem speed any of the 200gr or lighter bullets meant for it will work. There's tons of information on the Mike Bellm site http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=121 I've had good luck with Hornady 180ssp bullets at around 2150fps in a 16" barrel on deer out to 142yds, but couldn't use them in leveraction since they're pointy.
02-20-2017 08:45 AM
moleman The DNR won't give me a ticket for using a 357max, where as they would a 35 Rem. As long as pistol caliber rifles are still allowed in MI limited firearms zone. It's true you can't use any bullet, but there are enough bullet choices out there that finding one for deer isn't an issue. I've got quite a few of the excellent speer 180gr FN which should be able to get up to 2200fps to 2300fps with a 20" barrel, or 180gr xtp, 180gr rem, or since basically you're at 35rem speed any of the 200gr or lighter bullets meant for it will work. There's tons of information on the Mike Bellm site http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=121 I've had good luck with Hornady 180ssp bullets at around 2150fps in a 16" barrel on deer out to 142yds, but couldn't use them in leveraction since they're pointy.
02-20-2017 06:54 AM
lloyd smale I would have to wonder if the 357 bullet technology out there today is ready for 2000fps. Using a bullet designed to open up at a 1000fps in a gun going twice that fast turns a hunting bullet into a varmint bullet. I know that cast bullets sure do better at 1400 fps then they do at 2000. You can run them that fast with some careful steps but finding an alloy that will hold up is tough. I don't know of any dedicated 357 Rifle bullets. Maybe a partition but your selection for proper bullets is going to be slim and none. Unless your intension with it is to blow the **** out of things. the 35 rem is a much better choice. If your considering a 94 length action I don't see an advantage to the max. Much better bullets are available for the 35 rem and brass and ammo would be much easier to find. I guess practicality isn't allways the driving force behind what I do and buy either. If you just want one because you want one go for it. But for the money your going to invest you could go to the gunshop and pick up a used marlin 35 and be shooting that day.
02-12-2017 05:09 PM
tommyt
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Still working on one and will make a thread on it when I'm further along. Added a .080" strip to the bottom of an extra carrier in an attempt to get it to lift sooner. It worked, but it also tried to lift the carrier too high at the end of the lever stroke. So it need jigged up on the mill and the area around the bump thinned quite a bit. I think the front "U" section also need a piece silver soldered in to reduce the inside diameter so it can cut off anything at the rim diameter but allow the thinner case wall diameter through. Then a pin or block to limit how far back a case can go. In the end I may just end up milling a new carrier but I'd like to avoid that if possible.

As was asked please post a Link here to your new thread, so I get a notice
Nice work
THanks
Tommyt
02-12-2017 12:22 PM
Joe S.
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Originally Posted by gstewart44 View Post
I have a Rossi M92 16" barrel in .357mag. I use Buffalo Bore Heavy 357 loads in it and they chrony over 2000 fps with the 158 gr bullet. Buffalo Bore ain't cheap but it seems like a more cost efficient way to get more power out of a 357 carbine/rifle. Just my $0.02.
The right 357 load is a definite performer in a rifle.
That is why Max is so desirable. It is just that much better
02-12-2017 12:19 PM
Joe S. Awesome! Please post the link to your thread in this thread so that I can see it when I get the notification.
02-12-2017 12:17 PM
moleman Still working on one and will make a thread on it when I'm further along. Added a .080" strip to the bottom of an extra carrier in an attempt to get it to lift sooner. It worked, but it also tried to lift the carrier too high at the end of the lever stroke. So it need jigged up on the mill and the area around the bump thinned quite a bit. I think the front "U" section also need a piece silver soldered in to reduce the inside diameter so it can cut off anything at the rim diameter but allow the thinner case wall diameter through. Then a pin or block to limit how far back a case can go. In the end I may just end up milling a new carrier but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
02-12-2017 11:36 AM
gstewart44 I have a Rossi M92 16" barrel in .357mag. I use Buffalo Bore Heavy 357 loads in it and they chrony over 2000 fps with the 158 gr bullet. Buffalo Bore ain't cheap but it seems like a more cost efficient way to get more power out of a 357 carbine/rifle. Just my $0.02.
02-01-2017 11:37 PM
tommyt
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Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
I dont see why a 94 wouldnt work as far as making it cycle properly. Same action lemgth as 30-30 and the max is shorter than 30-30. Why couldnt you take a 357 mag 94, modify the carrier to work with the longer max cartridge and re-chamber? What am i missing?

Aside from operating pressure being too high (?) i dont see why this wouldnt work.
I think the same

However I think our thoughts are wrong😂
02-01-2017 10:34 PM
Joe S. I dont see why a 94 wouldnt work as far as making it cycle properly. Same action lemgth as 30-30 and the max is shorter than 30-30. Why couldnt you take a 357 mag 94, modify the carrier to work with the longer max cartridge and re-chamber? What am i missing?

Aside from operating pressure being too high (?) i dont see why this wouldnt work.
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