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01-03-2020 02:12 PM
omegahunter
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Originally Posted by Drilling Man View Post
I bet you, it won't be long, and all the bullet makers will be making hunting bullets for the Legend.

DM

As far as the BIG makers go, they are pretty much already on the bandwagon. Once Hornady jumped, the rest won't sit by and let them have the market.
01-01-2020 06:53 PM
Drilling Man
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To me the biggest downfall of the cartridge is the .355" bullet. Hard to come by for reloaders and an unnecessary hindrance created to sell more factory ammo...
I bet you, it won't be long, and all the bullet makers will be making hunting bullets for the Legend.

DM
12-31-2019 05:28 PM
Mule 11 You guys can’t see it but you make me smile. I just found and read the entire thread. Thanks...
12-31-2019 09:57 AM
dinny I would think powder and primer selection would have a larger impact on accuracy than the larger 358/359 throat. I see no drawbacks to the improved throat.

I see it now, the 350 Legend Improved 😉

Thanks, Dinny
12-31-2019 09:24 AM
Lt. Dave
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How would that affect accuracy?



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Having a .358" diameter throat would allow more common .357 bullets instead of the .355 bullets that the factory ammo is using. I could even go .3585" and be set up to shoot .358" diameter cast bullets.

To me the biggest downfall of the cartridge is the .355" bullet. Hard to come by for reloaders and an unnecessary hindrance created to sell more factory ammo.

Accuracy would likely be better in a tighter match chamber instead of the looser SAAMI chamber. In a single shot a loose chamber is not needed to promote reliable feeding.

Only one way to find out...
12-31-2019 12:23 AM
driven2tri24
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dave View Post
The .357 Mag SAAMI bullet and throat diameter is .358 inch for jacketed bullets and .359 for cast.



The .350 Legend bullet and throat diameter is .357 inch.



Both have a .355 groove and .346 bore diameter according to SAAMI.



Increasing the throat diameter of the .350 Legend to .358 or .359 inch would allow us to use the same bullets we load the .357 Max with.

How would that affect accuracy?



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12-30-2019 06:43 PM
Lt. Dave My understanding on throat diameter is that it should be .001" over bullet diameter. So a .357 bullet would need a .358 throat. That is why SAAMI specifications require a .358" throat for jacketed .357 mag bullets. They also show .359" throat for .358" cast bullets.


Anyone else have a different opinion?

Talked to PTG today. Working on the. 350 (.358 throat) Legend Match Reamer details. Waiting on their expert opinion. Will let you know if it happens.
12-30-2019 06:05 PM
dinny I spoke to JES after he rebored and rechambered a 223 Handi to 350 L. He used the same cutters to cut the bore as he does any 357 Magnum. He used a SAAMI spec 350L reamer that cut a .356 or .357 throat. I can't remember which it was. That's why he only recommended firing factory ammo in it.

As to the toughness of .358" bullets, remember the 180gr Hornady SSPB is .358 so I would say that some of them may be too tough but not all of them are. Even the .358 200gr Rem RN expanded very well for me when fired around 1800fps in my 357 Max.

Thanks, Dinny
12-30-2019 11:34 AM
cwlongshot
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I'm thinking that this needs doing. May call a few reamer manufacturers tomorrow and see if they would do a .358 Legend reamer for me.[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/images/GreyBeardOutdoors_toucan/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
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Why??

The Legend runs at higher pressures than the Maxi. All at nearly identical velocities. We have been shooting 358 Bullets thru Our maxis for decades.

It has the same limitations in powder cap as the Maxi.


Yes Stewie, Those 145g FMJ are down right dangerious. I would t shoot them on a bet. My very first boxes left me with excessively flat primers blown primers and a case head separation. I suspected the Rifle first but quickly learned it wasAttachment 238882 the ammunition.



I would think .358 bullets to be too tough for Legend velocities..
I thought 350L and 357 Mag have same bore groove diameters...just the chamber/throat is different(smaller)?
12-30-2019 09:43 AM
stewmagoo
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dave View Post
I believe this was the cheap Winchester 145 gr fmj ammo. That was the first ammo rolled out for the .350 Legend.



The expanding tip and soft point hunting ammo from Winchester and Hornady is much better quality from what I hear.
Good deal.

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