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02-03-2020 09:54 PM
Harold89
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Originally Posted by JayCee View Post
I decided to try some X-Treme plated bullets in my Model 97, so I ordered a box of their .357 158 grain flat point bullets. These bullets have a cannelure pressed into the copper plating, so I figured a light roll crimp could be applied. I expanded the case mouths using a Lyman "M" die and seated the bullets using the seater die without any crimping. I then lightly crimped the case mouth into the cannelure using the Lee FCD - a half turn of the adjustment knob. No damage to the plating that I could see. The rounds chambered with no problem, and accuracy was excellent. My Model 97 is happy again...[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/images/GreyBeardOutdoors_toucan/smilies/tango_face_smile.png[/IMG]
Same journey here, literally. The Extremes shoot wonderful in my 83 41 with 5.0g of Bullseye and a light taper crimp. I just picked up more Extremes for my 83 44. Tonight I did run a few MBCs in 44 through my FA. They were the coated Smashers. I seated the bullet ojives to just clear the front of the throats. No issues and accuracy was pretty good. Will see after further testing. I can see where sizing the MBCs down with a Lee sizing die might work also.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
02-03-2020 08:40 PM
JayCee
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I decided to try some X-Treme plated bullets in my Model 97, so I ordered a box of their .357 158 grain flat point bullets. These bullets have a cannelure pressed into the copper plating, so I figured a light roll crimp could be applied. I expanded the case mouths using a Lyman "M" die and seated the bullets using the seater die without any crimping. I then lightly crimped the case mouth into the cannelure using the Lee FCD - a half turn of the adjustment knob. No damage to the plating that I could see. The rounds chambered with no problem, and accuracy was excellent. My Model 97 is happy again...
08-10-2019 11:15 PM
Apuesto Same issue here. I have no problem with jacketed bullets, but cast is killing me. I swage the down to 357" but they still won't seat. I'm at the point where I'm thinking to swage them down to .356".


My reloads works is all my other 357s, but their cylinder throats take a .358" plus pin gauge easily. My FA just barely takes a .357" plus pin gauge.
06-16-2019 10:16 AM
Nick B
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Originally Posted by lumpy grits View Post
Remove the cyl-Can you put the bullet end of the rnd up to the case in from the front of the cyl?
If no-It's the throat.
LG
I’ll check as soon as I get more cast bullets loaded .
Been away on vacation.
06-02-2019 10:30 AM
lumpy grits
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Originally Posted by Nick B View Post
My M97 in .357 is the same as the OP. Only ammunition that is loaded with .357 diameter cast or jacketed bullets will chamber .
.358 won’t chamber all the way .
Remove the cyl-Can you put the bullet end of the rnd up to the case in from the front of the cyl?
If no-It's the throat.
LG
06-01-2019 09:24 PM
Nick B My M97 in .357 is the same as the OP. Only ammunition that is loaded with .357 diameter cast or jacketed bullets will chamber .
.358 won’t chamber all the way .
06-01-2019 08:27 PM
lumpy grits FA chambers and throat are cut to min-specs.
First see if you can push just your bullet through the throat of the cylinder with a pencil or such.
Do this from the back side of the cylinder......
LG
05-28-2019 10:57 PM
stikshooter Try Getting a Lee push thru sizer. I have a MP 8cav 168 gr /360 mold and get a lot of use out of it with my new to me 357 maxi Handi rifle . The boolit drops at 360-362 I then run it thru my Lyman 450 lube sizer to 358/then powder coat which brings it up to 360 again and it goes again thru the sizer @359 which is what the maxi shoots best .Factory crimp is not going to change a boolit that"s to fat especially if the BHN is hard 16-20 . I PC mine because the BHN is 14 and it lets me push them a little faster without leading while making perfect mushrooms
05-28-2019 10:00 PM
parisite I always try to purchase flat base non beveled cast bullets. I've always thought they grouped better. The longer the distance the more noticeable it becomes.
02-07-2019 11:41 PM
biquer My new model 83, .44 magnum's chambers were a too tight fit for Moyers 240 grain/.430" cast SWC which worked well for many thousands that shot through Super Blackhawk and Vaquero. Seating them a bit deeper, just past the crimp groove and my usual roll crimp with Redding crimp die, fit well. The moderate charge of WW 296 and Federal LPM primers showed no signs of too much pressure with empty brass that easily fell out the chambers.
Perhaps there's something there to apply to .357?
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