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06-19-2019 09:46 PM
hornetguy
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Originally Posted by AccelR8 View Post
It's because we're all living in the past here shooting our Hornets and K-Hornets.

LOL, yeah, I guess that's it. The Hornet, and then the K-Hornet are my favorite cartridges to shoot (hence the username) .... they are amazingly economical, and they just really are not that difficult to reload for.


I shot my best group on paper with a 16" contender barrel in the regular Hornet. It was just above an inch and a half, at 200 yards. 5 shot group. I was astonished, because while I'm an ok shot, I'm nowhere near a good benchrest shooter. I'm ok... can usually get close to minute of angle, but the skills and discipline to shoot teeny-tiny one-hole groups has never been in my skill set.


They are great for varmints, and will take care of coyotes if you use the right bullet. I had a VMax sort of blow up on the shoulder of a coyote at about 80 or 90 yards... killed the coyote, but there was very little penetration. I think the 50 gr bullets would probably work better... or even a 40gr that wasn't designed to be a little bomb on varmints.
06-19-2019 03:29 PM
AccelR8
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Originally Posted by hornetguy View Post
What's up with the date and time stamp on posts?
It's because we're all living in the past here shooting our Hornets and K-Hornets.
06-19-2019 11:57 AM
garandsrus The time has always been weird. I looked once to figure out how to change it but never found the magic spot. I thought it may just be me.
06-18-2019 09:35 PM
hornetguy What's up with the date and time stamp on posts? I posted the above about 30 minutes ago, around 7 pm, central time, on June 18... the time stamp says it was posted yesterday at 10:55 PM.


Am I in some kind of time warp here?
06-18-2019 07:55 PM
hornetguy I guess I'm too lazy to do all that. My K-Hornet (Bullberry barrel on a Contender Carbine) worked just fine with all my reloads, using Redding dies, and sizing to just almost get all the neck.


I never used Hornady brass... mine is all Winchester and Remington... mostly Winchester.


I no longer have the K-Hornet, so I have quite a bit of fired brass if you are interested. Most of it has been fired 2 to 4 times.


For my "hot" load, I used the 40gr VMax and LilGun powder. I think (will have to check) but I'm pretty sure I was getting 3100 fps or so, chrono'd.


My plinking and small game loads used a 40gr HP bullet that I think was designed for the .22 mag. I bought a couple thousand of them, and they have worked really well. I used AA 1680 in that load. I think it was around 2800fps or so.
06-13-2019 04:09 PM
AccelR8 Just a note, I posted earlier velocities and said I had a 16.5" barrel I corrected that post, it's 18.25." Don't want bad info out there
06-12-2019 06:53 PM
cwlongshot That new brass is good. Now Id look into a new sizer die.

Have fun!

CW
06-12-2019 10:04 AM
AccelR8 Mine is chambered with the Graybeard reamer which if I remember correctly is a CLY110 and has a 35 degree shoulder. If I were to make a custom chamber type die I would use the same reamer.

Back when I started this project I commented that I was unable to find brass, and a couple of individuals here graciously sent me K-Hornet brass fired in their guns. Some of it was a perfect fit in my chamber, some of it had longer necks with the shoulder a little farther back (these fire formed to my chamber just fine) and some of it had base dimensions which were too large for my chamber.

I just got 100 new Winchester cases, head stamped W-W Super. Yesterday I fired 10 with the published starting load of Lil Gun and 55 grain Hornady SPSX. Loading, shooting and fire forming went well, no troubles. Fired cases look good, nicely formed. Primers were a little flat (Winchester small pistol standard, not magnum, primer). Average velocity was 2,582 fps. This is more than I expected as the published velocity for that load is 2,551 with a 24” barrel. Mine is 18.25” so I think I can back off that load a little bit. Accuracy was 1.6 MOA. Anyway, I'll play with these case and see how it goes. Thanks for the offer!
06-12-2019 08:48 AM
cwlongshot The Lyman M Die is worth its weight to solve these issues a d a REQUIREMENT for cast. As too tight a next and a soft bullet can actually be resized BY the action of seating the bullet. Resulting in inaccuracy and leading.

The K Hornet case is far more durable. I havent had this issue but my first thought was too soft brass and annealing would only serve to exacerbate that issue.

I really think your on to the problem and feel the issue is the die itself. I use a Redding set in my K and have had zero issues. I have the die set to partially size. Cannot call it true neck sizing but its close. My K is a re chambered Handi.

Being the K has a few variances depending on whos reamer you use different cases really need to be fire formed from your rifle.

But If you would like, I can send you some of my own K cases and see what that gets you.

CW

EDIT; Super gluing bullets in to establish neck tension, I do not feel is your best idea...
06-12-2019 12:46 AM
AccelR8
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Originally Posted by drichi View Post
I would be interested in a chamber type seater and very willing to cover your costs plus some. If you decide to do some please let me know. I have looked for one for a 22 k hornet and come up empty also.
OK will do. Lots of irons in the fire right now.

Thanks to those who commented on the Lee expander. I'll look into that.
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