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06-26-2019 04:50 PM
Argent11 Toilet paper would be in high demand. An old running vehicle may as well have a target on it. Horses also,people gotta eat.
The zombie like hords from the cities would become a problem.
06-26-2019 04:00 PM
Shootall3 Just remember when you stay fat when others get skinny it will draw attention.
06-26-2019 01:20 PM
Shootall3 Store freeze dried food. Store water , a well is good. Oil lamps are good. Have a am , fm ,sw tadio and a ham radio in a steel container that is insulated on the inside do the radios don't touch the steel. Store see canned goods also. If you have an old vehicle store elec parts in container also
Salt is good to preserve meat and fish just get the correct kind
Lime is good to have around again the correct type. Bleech is good but it costs effectivenrdd over time.
06-25-2019 09:59 PM
Dee Used to pull reefers to Walmart distribution centers.

The way it was explained to me was;
Cut the trucks off, the distribution center would be dry in under 2 weeks.

Superstores? In about 3 days of food items.
06-25-2019 09:27 PM
Argent11
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Originally Posted by Empty Quiver View Post
I pretty much drive one of those groceries trucks.

Daily deliveries to every store is closer to the mark, not every 6-10 days. There is quite literally nothing o eat behind the swinging door.

I wish I could convince myself to store more fuel. Itís truly a pain to deal with the alchy gas and its issues.

Have mentioned winter? One word, uffda.


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Winter, that alone will cull the herds.
06-25-2019 08:07 PM
Empty Quiver I pretty much drive one of those groceries trucks.

Daily deliveries to every store is closer to the mark, not every 6-10 days. There is quite literally nothing o eat behind the swinging door.

I wish I could convince myself to store more fuel. Itís truly a pain to deal with the alchy gas and its issues.

Have mentioned winter? One word, uffda.


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06-25-2019 03:43 PM
Ranger99 correct me if i'm wrong.
i don't think the point was so much that a generator that was
running would be stolen, so much as that the noise of one running
and bright lights would be about the same as having a large sign out
front that said " HEY ! i've got power and refrigeration and a supply
of unspoiled food inside ! come kill me and my spouse and eat
our food supply on your way to more mayhem and destruction ! "


i'm of the opinion that those in a crowded housing tract or subdivision
will be buzzard food, same as the internet rambos that envision
winning a cul-de-sac firefight with several dozen scumbag looter/pillager
types.
you'll have to learn to be a champion at hide and seek when the
losers get seriously dead instead of a 2-out-of-3 do over.

we've already seen time after time on television during these riots
and natural disasters and such that folks these days are very willing
and ready to do whatever comes to their feeble mind as far as murder
and mayhem. you'll not be able to call for help
06-25-2019 02:51 PM
Argent11
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Originally Posted by JBinMN View Post
A side note that many , even here, may not have considered, but just think on it a bit.


If an EMP took out a large swath of the US, regardless of the area. Let us just say one state or even a region of some states, there would be ZERO communications for the most part.
NO ONE, except perhaps those prepared for such an situation, would be able to contact anyone else by phone, radio, etc.


They would not know how to contact anyone for any help.


They would not know where to go to find help, as well as consider that they ether will walk, or ride something like a bicycle or a horse to get there.
They may not even know what happened.


Those who live in big cities would be wandering around, OR going on a crime spree.


What if you were on an elevator when it happened?




How about in surgery?



It is really something to ponder on... All those types of things...


I would bet that not one in a thousand of folks have ever even considered the thought. I am even likely shorting that,as it is likely even more than that.


Yep. Lots of folks gonna suffer & die...



The old tube type radios and car battery's JB. Many of them would run on DC or AC. I still have a couple of those. Ones even a transceiver.
06-25-2019 01:30 PM
JBinMN A side note that many , even here, may not have considered, but just think on it a bit.


If an EMP took out a large swath of the US, regardless of the area. Let us just say one state or even a region of some states, there would be ZERO communications for the most part.
NO ONE, except perhaps those prepared for such an situation, would be able to contact anyone else by phone, radio, etc.


They would not know how to contact anyone for any help.


They would not know where to go to find help, as well as consider that they ether will walk, or ride something like a bicycle or a horse to get there.
They may not even know what happened.


Those who live in big cities would be wandering around, OR going on a crime spree.


What if you were on an elevator when it happened?


How about in surgery?



It is really something to ponder on... All those types of things...


I would bet that not one in a thousand of folks have ever even considered the thought. I am even likely shorting that,as it is likely even more than that.


Yep. Lots of folks gonna suffer & die...
06-25-2019 01:21 PM
JBinMN I read that article in the OP a couple of days ago and have been pondering on it off & on since then. I have considered it for a long time, but now, just recently, am revisiting it a little bit. "taking stock" , one could say.


In my area, there would be a lot of folks who would do, "alright", if the power was out for a few days to a week. Perhaps even longer. There are way too many who would not be alright if it went on longer. The longer it went, the more folks who depend on the gubment would be some of the first to either resort to crime to survive, or suffer & die. Even in the small rural towns, where folks band together, there are a lot of folks who just live in the town, but are not involved in any of the small town/neighborhood activities, but just commute to the larger cities & towns to work & do their activities. Folks do not know one another like they used to do.


BTW, just to be clear, I am not talking about a short term power outage(s), but like an EMP, a long term one.


I know this has been covered a lot before, in a lot of places. There are forums & websites dedicated to bushlore/survival/"prepping", etc..
There are also lot of folks who just do not want to even consider what they would do if something like that happened.


Most people have no idea what it is like not to have food, or even water, easily available without working a bit to have it. Particularly the "citiots" (< My/others term for "city idiots") who have no clue about how things are done out in the "sticks"/rural areas. Like how the livestock & crops are raised & then still need to be processed for most folks to even consider eating it & the practices/methods to do so. Most are ignorant, and are voluntarily ignorant about those things. ( to their "demise" if things continue to get worse.)



No idea how to prep water to keep from being sick, or even properly cooking food to keep from getting ill. Too many are reliant on water out of the tap provided for them, already drinkable. Food comes wrapped in plastic or in a box, somewhat "ready to heat", just add some water, or the like, or "pre cooked". it is becoming where very few are knowing how to "really prepare & cook food, or purify water.


Many do not realize that their food products in the grocery store are re-supplied weekly and there is maybe a 10 day supply in any one store before a re-supply is necessary. I would bet that many think the foodstuffs in the store are made "in the back of the store" like magic or something...

They also do not take into consideration that the re-supply must happen thru trucking, etc.. Which rely on fuel... Which means fuel pumps to get the fuel into the trucks/etc., & now a days those pumps are electrified, not manual. So, the trucks that bring the food either do not have fuel since the pumps are out, or they would have to manually fill them. Takes time & effort. How many truck drivers you know would be wanting to take on fuel if they had to manually pump it in? How many service station clerks would know how to use a manual pump & how many would be willing to pump the fuel anyway?
While that is going on the refrigerated foods perish sooner since the refrigeration runs on the electricity as well.


Processing the food to be in a form that is edible for folks take electricity most of the time. I am not talking about a small town butcher who does the work from the "bring the livestock in", kills it, hides & hangs it, then after hanging it (< refrigerated, but not happening when no power.. ), takes it down & processes it into "cuts", etc., but the big plants & mills that make all the different types of food products.



They don't have electricity, they are limited to very small operations, if at all. they still have to get the stuff to the stores, and all this while they are trying to keep their families fed themselves & the employees are trying to do the same.


Not gonna get into medical issues...


Tooo much to comment on about this subject that so many just don't even contemplate due to all the "Bread & Circuses" proved for them, like sporting events, television & movies, etc.. Fantasy crap that helps them escape reality...



I could go on, as there is a lot to cover about how the system breaks down & puts folks back to the 1820s or so, possible the 1700s, but for some here, "I am preaching to the choir", & others won't pay attention because I typed too many words in this post.


Short way of saying it...


LOTS of folks are NOT going to survive & many are going to suffer, a LOT.
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