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04-20-2020 04:24 AM
lloyd smale yup they did a 454 Alaskan for me. It would shoot 45 colts and 454s with there propriety thin clips or even with no clips and shoot 45acps with standard smith 25 clips. Made a real cool package. Wish I wouldn't have gotten talked out of it. TK does good work at a reasonable price.
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I got through to the owner of the mystery gun. Here's the info I got. He had it done by TK Custom. It works with both 38spl and 9mm. 38 works as normal, nine with moon clips.

TK doesn't list that exact job on their site, but they specialize in moon clips and 9mm conversion as well as other basic revolver work.

I didn't ask why. I'm aware that people convert J frames to 9mm because they use it as a backup to a full size pistol in the same caliber. I'm figuring that he went with the two cartridge option because he can, which is enough reason in itself.

https://tkcustom.com/?fbclid=IwAR1Rk...QW5BuYuz-vL2ss is the link to TK if anyone is keen to know more.

Interesting gun. Neat idea.
04-09-2020 08:43 PM
Apuesto
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Apuesto, may I ask how much they charged for the conversion?
I donít remember. I had the conversion done at TK Customs. You can have a look on their website or give them a call.
04-07-2020 11:18 AM
Shootall3 Ruger makes a Redhawk that shoots 45 Colt and 45 acp but it won't shoot the auto rim. Then there is the S&W Governor . For Glock fans a G23 with conversion bbls in 9mm and 357 sig work also.
03-31-2020 03:59 PM
jlwilliams Apuesto, may I ask how much they charged for the conversion?
03-31-2020 10:19 AM
Bad Mike Ya can't have just one .....
03-31-2020 12:24 AM
Apuesto
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Apuesto: Will your Ruger take the 45 Auto Rim case as well?? I can understand the survivalist thoughts and set aside so I don't have to limit myself to one gun. Just sayin' .....
.45 Schofield, .45 Colt, .454 Casull.

EDIT: I have not tried to shoot auto rim.

I don’t quite follow why you feel a multiple caliber gun would limit you to one gun. I have a “few” more than one.
03-30-2020 03:08 PM
Bad Mike Apuesto: Will your Ruger take the 45 Auto Rim case as well?? I can understand the survivalist thoughts and set aside so I don't have to limit myself to one gun. Just sayin' .....
03-29-2020 08:52 PM
Apuesto
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jl: interesting gun, maybe. Neat idea - naw, imo a waste of time. I really can't see any reason to try and fire 9mms from a 38 or 38 snubbie. You will simply not get anything worth 9mm pistol velocities and you really can't reload the 9mm to be any better than the original 38 in those revolvers. And from my opinion, which is imo only, the notion of a same caliber back-up piece to a duty or issue piece for ammunition or caliber interchangeability is a bit off, because if you run out of ammo in your primary piece are you going to reload it from your back-up or just shoot the back-up????

It's a neat idea for those who are survivalist minded. If the primary ammo for your gun is not available but you can get ammo in the other caliber your gun shoots, you will still have something to shoot.

In addition to a 686 that shoots 9mm, I also converted a Ruger SRH. It shoots the 45Colt/454 Casull family of cartridges with or without moonclips, and it shoots 45ACP, 460 Rowland and 45 Winchester Mag only with moonclips. The moonclips for the rimmed cartridges are not the same as those for the rimless carts, but the rimless moonclips are the same ones used in the S&W N frame 45ACP's and they are very cheap and very available.
03-29-2020 08:37 PM
Apuesto
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I saw a gun on a Facebook thread that the owner said (if I understood him correctly) was modified in a way I've never seen or heard of before. He said it was a 38 that had been re worked to take 9mm on moon clips and could still shoot 38. I would think that it's possible to ream and cut a 38 to 9mm, but still taking 38?

What's the story? Is this a known modification? I'm curious to know more.
I have a 686 that shoots 357 both with or without moonclips , and 9mm only with moonclips. TK customs did mine.

The cylinder is cut for moonclips and the chambers are reamed slightly to accept the wider 9mm case (9mm is a tapered case). It will of course shoot 38 too but I’ve not bothered.
03-29-2020 10:53 AM
Bad Mike jl: interesting gun, maybe. Neat idea - naw, imo a waste of time. I really can't see any reason to try and fire 9mms from a 38 or 38 snubbie. You will simply not get anything worth 9mm pistol velocities and you really can't reload the 9mm to be any better than the original 38 in those revolvers. And from my opinion, which is imo only, the notion of a same caliber back-up piece to a duty or issue piece for ammunition or caliber interchangeability is a bit off, because if you run out of ammo in your primary piece are you going to reload it from your back-up or just shoot the back-up????

I have seen some 9mm/38 conversions. One fella told me it was necessary so he could manage faster reloads with the 9mms because their noses were narrower and smaller than the 38 and he could chamber his reloads faster. But he didn't carry a reload because it was too bulky in his pocket, so okay, now what. He liked the idea of hollowpoints in his reloads for the expansion, even though the bullets moved so slowly from the barrel of his snubby that they wouldn't expand. Since he didn't shoot a 357 he had no use for semi-wadcutter cast loads and you couldn't get them for the 38 because they were police loads, so he said but then he asked me where I had purchased mine. He was surprised they were so available and thought he may even switch back to the 38 on accounta he never carried a reload anyhow.

And btw, I once heard directly from Colt that all 38 Spl, 357 magnum, 9 mm and 38 Super barrels all had the same bore dimension, which was 9mm. I'm not putting a lot of stock in that even though 9 mm bullets loaded into 38 cases shot just fine from my Detective Special and both my Pythons but not so accurately from my 38 Supers, although the Colts in 38 Super then were not too accurate; and apparently with a 357 diameter jacketed slug in the 357s there wasn't any problem so it worked well enough back then, so who knows. Just sayin' ....
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