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Have a friend who is going elk hunting with us in the AM and is bringing his 270 loaded with 130gr grand slam bullets. I told him maybe to light on elk. Can I get some help on this one.

To light or ok?

I know the 270 can kill elk as I have seen it done but with 130gr bullets?
 

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It will depend on bullet placement(it always does) but the Grand Slam is a good bullet so it should hold together. O'conner took Elk with 130 grain .270 and the bullets back then were not as good as those now so ???.

I agree that I personally would not be taking that combination after Elk. If I had to use my 270 then I would be loading a good 150 grain bullet but would prefer a larger diameter bullet.
 

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that load will kill elk all day long. i don't know why people think you need big magnums to kill elk. they used to kill them with bow and arrows. then flint locks. they went the way buffalo went years ago. those old guys, with little more than rocks, almost wiped them out.
 

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On my one trip to CO for a mule deer hunt one of the only two elk shot by folks on that range while I was there was shot with a .270 and 130 grain Nolser BTs. He only had a couple with him as I recall and was able to anchor it long enough to rush back to the lodge for more to finish it. He was riding the ranch road when he spotted it and shot from the truck. Not my idea of hunting but it's what most of the guys on that ranch did that week we were there.
 

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I wouldn't use a .270 on elk if I could help it. If I were going to, I'd use the heaviest Nosler Partition that would shoot accurately in the rifle.
 

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OMG :eek:

The swampman and I agree for once :eek: ???.


Not sure about the partition though as my one and only try with them failed to yeild any speakable accuracy :-[ but that was my only try with them. Just don't see the need to pay that much for the quarry I normally hunt here especially when the cup and core bullets work fine on them ;D
 

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There are certainly better choices and I'd not buy one just for elk hunting but if it's the only rifle one has it will get the job done if the shooter puts the bullet in the right spot. Untold numbers of elk have been taken cleanly with it and will continue to do each year.

Personally I'd use a 150 grain Nosler PT or equivilent bullet not a 130 grain but more folks seem to use 130s with it than all other bullet weights combined. I've never used a 130 in my .270s and always stick with Hornady 140s or Nosler 150 PTs. Those are the only two bullets I've use on game with the .270 Win.
 

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Hmmmm interesting GB as I brought a few boxes of the Sierra 140 grain bullets both SP and HP and recently found that the particularly fussy 270 I acquired the other year actually shoots them quite well. Before it was only the Federal Fusion 150's that it had grouped at all.

The only game I have shot with a 270 is so far a Muntjac Buck and was with one of the few remaining original 130 Grain Solid Base Nosler bullet but sadly I have only a couple of them left :'(.
 

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While I would not choose the .270 as my first choice, all the elk I have taken have been under a hundred yards. This is due to luck I am sure,not skill. At that range with a Barnes 130 X or a conventional at 150 grain would do just fine. I think most folks can shoot a .270 rather well and this adds to the ease of the shot. I pretty much limit my self to 200 to 250 yards if I can gauge it accurately.
 

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my daughter took her first elk with that exact combination 130gr speer grandslam
at about 2800FPS. No complaints from me,her or the elk.
Not sure why everyone needs a cannon for elk, seen lots of them taken with
everything from a 243 on up. ;)
 

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Long years ago even before we set up GBO I was posting over on the Coffee Shop and Hunt Info. There was a fellow who lived in NM and guided for mule deer and elk. His personal elk rifle was a .243 and he used 85 and 95 grain Nosler PTs. He was careful to wait for close range broadside shots but from what he said he never lost one with the little pipsqueak round.

Not long before I lost touch with him completely he found and bought a Browning lever rifle in .358 Winchester which then became his primary elk rifle. If you are really careful of shot placement and get close you can get by with a lot less than if you must shot across two canyons and hit them in the butt to be happy.
 

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I am a very long time fan and owner of rifles in 270 Winchester. The .270 Winchester would not be my first choice for elk unless I was limited to it. Having said that a game warden friend has consistently taken elk with 130-grain Nosler Partition bullets. When it comes to conventional cup and core bullets in the 270 I prefer 140 and 150 grain bullets for deer because they offered better penetration.

I have no experience with the Grand Slam in 270 Winchester. I do have some Grand Slam bullets for my 7MM Remington Magnum.

Many years ago I told my wife I needed a new rifle because I felt the 270 Winchester did not offer what I wanted in an elk rifle.(Any excuse for a new rifle will do!) At the time I was looking for a 300 Winchester Magnum, but I settled for a 7MM Remington Magnum because it was on sale. That was thirty years ago, and there has been a major evolution in bullet development for the 270 Winchester, including the Gran Slam. Having shot a lot of deer with the .270 I would go for a heavier bullet.

If I was limited to the .270 Winchester for elk I would go for the 150-grain Grand Slam, Nosler Partition, a bonded bullet, or the 130-grain Barnes TTSX. Then I would happily take my 270 elk hunting.
 

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No cannon needed. The .30-06 or .45-70 are plenty. I'd even consider my .30-30. I'd rather not use my .270 on anything larger than deer.
 

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;) When we talk of guys shooting elk with the 243 or similar calibers, we have to remember they have lots of opportunity that the visiting hunter will not have. I a friend that is a guide, and shot many elk with a .. 243 well over 100, but most of them were shot in heavy snow from his bed room window. Another guy here in the valley shot a .243, but he had to be closer that 120 yards before he would shoot. He shot for the ear.. In the early days, most elk were in heavy timber here, now they are all over the plains, so longer shots are available. As for the indians shooting stuff with bows and arrows, no one took in to account the numbers of game that was crippled and lost ...I did hunt one fall with a predator control man for the fed. govt. He told me he had used a .25-06 for a time, but got tired of tracking elk and bought a .300.... A rancher told me the same tale... Personally, I never found elk hard to kill, but always shot a 7mm or larger..When guys go for elk for 5, 8, 10 or 15 days, they may have a few chances, or only one. If they are intent on bagging an elk with out a cripple, it would seem to me the biggest gun with the best bullet they can handle would be fitting. It is nice to sit by the fire a say I would or would not do such and such, but after 10 hard days hunting and a huge bull gives an opportunity, most will try. We owe it to the game to have a suitable rifle and load....
 

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;) When we talk of guys shooting elk with the 243 or similar calibers, we have to remember they have lots of opportunity that the visiting hunter will not have. I a friend that is a guide, and shot many elk with a .. 243 well over 100, but most of them were shot in heavy snow from his bed room window. Another guy here in the valley shot a .243, but he had to be closer that 120 yards before he would shoot. He shot for the ear.. In the early days, most elk were in heavy timber here, now they are all over the plains, so longer shots are available. As for the indians shooting stuff with bows and arrows, no one took in to account the numbers of game that was crippled and lost ...I did hunt one fall with a predator control man for the fed. govt. He told me he had used a .25-06 for a time, but got tired of tracking elk and bought a .300.... A rancher told me the same tale... Personally, I never found elk hard to kill, but always shot a 7mm or larger..When guys go for elk for 5, 8, 10 or 15 days, they may have a few chances, or only one. If they are intent on bagging an elk with out a cripple, it would seem to me the biggest gun with the best bullet they can handle would be fitting. It is nice to sit by the fire a say I would or would not do such and such, but after 10 hard days hunting and a huge bull gives an opportunity, most will try. We owe it to the game to have a suitable rifle and load....

Well said!!
 

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I used an old 270 on a Mauser action to take several elk using 150 gr. Hornady Interloks and several more with the 150 gr. Speer bullet. Last time I went I used a 150 gr. Partition. My take is that it is more limited than the 30-06 but it can get the job done.
 
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