I believe this bullet is discontinued, Hornady made it but as is my usual practice to buy any bullets I can find cheap in 35 caliber I found four boxes for $12. each and they are mine. They have a nice point and were made mostly for contender pistols in 35 Remington. I loaded 10 of them on top of 46.0 grains of IMR 4198 and shot a couple into dirt. They maintained a one chunk appearance. MY guess is I am getting 2600 fps. Anyone have any on game experience with this bullet on Whitetails?