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So I decided to keep the Remington Model 7 in .308, and am going to have to just buy another rifle in a medium caliber.

I've currently got bolt actions in .22lr, .223, .303 British and .308(Model 7 and Savage 10FP). I think that I'm needing something in the 6mm to 6.5mm range.

Looking for something that will be versatile enough to handle things from varmints to coyotes and mule deer out to 300-400 yards.

I've narrowed my choices down to the 25-06 or the .260 remington.

I wouldn't mind either of them (but don't plan on buying both). The .260 kind of intrigues me.

I've recently took up reloading, and am now hooked, so factory ammo is not a big concern to me.

So what would you choose and why?

Thanks in advance,

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Comparing both with 100g. and 120g. bullets they are about equal. The 25-06 can be loaded with lighter bullets so that it can shoot very very fast and flat. The 260 can be loaded with heavier bullets so it may be better suited for big game. The 260 will do about every thing the 25-06 will do but at a lower pressure. This means longer barrel life, and the 260 is a short action cartridge, so the action will be a little stiffer and more compact.
 

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Doesniper pretty much summed it all up. The only thing I would add is that if you are looking for a 400 yard mule deer cartridge, then neither the .25-06 nor the .260 would be ideal choices.

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If the 260 will knock down a 50lb steel ram at 500 meters.
It will take down a deer at 400 easy with a 140 bullet.
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Most bullets need about 2000 fps to expand reliably. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the 260 with a 140 grain bullet travels at 2000 fps or more at 400 yards. Besides, shooting, hitting, and dropping a 50 pound target at 500 yards is not a great analogy in my opinion. :?

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I don't know if you've made your decision yet, but my vote is for the 260 Rem. It is a super cartridge, and is great if you handload. 25-06 is good too, but while it has a flatter trajectory, it doesn't have the power to match it, and can be a little light on larger deer. I've had good success on deer with the 260 Rem, my handload fired a 140 gr. Nosler Partition @ 2600 fps (which, BTW, carries 2000 fps all the way out to 355 yards). This isn't maximum speed, just what I found most accurate. 2750 fps is doable in a 260 w/22" barrel, and this load would pack 2000 fps all the way out to 430 yards if you loaded a Sierra GameKing or a Nosler Partition. The 260 is probably best when loaded with 120 gr. to 129 gr. bullets, at around 2800-2900 fps, good for deer out to 350 yards.
 

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I prefer and use the 25-06. It marches right up there with the 270 with 120 Gr bullets and has all the power needed at reasonable ranges. and with bullets in the light range makes a fantastic varmint round. That said however, You wont make a mistake with either one. Brass can be converted from 30-06 in one case and 308 in the other. Bullet selection is very good in either case. And I have seen very accurate rifles in both calibers. Get a good set of dies whichever one you chose and enjoy.
 

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The 25-06 never intrigued me. But the 260 does. Maybe just because it is not all that common. :D
 

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480 Ruger
I currently own a Browning A bolt in 25/06 and I had an Encore barrel in 260 Rem. Both are excellent choices. Being the practical sort of guy I am, and seeing as how you already have a 308 and you can use the same brass to load a 260 I'd take that one.
 

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Just don't buy either one, but buy a 7mm-08 instead, took two trophy white tails in Wyoming at 413 and 417 yards using Nosler 140 BT. Look at what top gun writers have said about the 7mm-08.

Answer the Gun Writers

Below are statements made by famous gun writers in the magazines.


The flat shooting 25-06 is the best for antelope hunting in opening country.
Answer: The 7mm-08 120 GR handloads shoot flatter than 120 GR 25-06 factory loads! With 120 GR 25-06 handloads, the 25-06 and 7mm-08 are ballistic twins!

The 30-06 will handle all North American big game except for the large bears.
Answer: The 7mm-08 is flatter shooting with equal energy and 40% less recoil than the 30-06!

The 270 Winchester is the best all-around rifle. For varmits, up to the largest deer species, the 270 can't be beat!
Answer: The 7mm-08 is the ballistic twin of the 270. The 7mm-08 has less recoil for varmit shooting, and will handle bigger bullets for the largest game. The 7mm-08 uses less powder and inherits the tack driving accuracy of the 308 Winchester.

The 280 Remington might unseat the 270 Winchester as the best all-around hunting cartridge.
Answer: The 280 factory loads are made for older pump action and auto-loading rifles and fall far below the performance levels of the 7mm-08 handloads.

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dbuck,

Thanks, but I bought a Tikka Whitetail Stainless Synthetic in 25-06.

Trust, me this is not my only rifle, but I can't say enough about the Tikka.

I've looked at them from the last 7-8 years, wanting one but never following through.

I wish I knew what I was missing.

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480 Ruger,

Let me be one of the first to congratulate you on your caliber choice. For everything from varmints to deer size game you couldn't have picked better. The bullets available for the .25-06 for varmints are much better than any for the .264. My wife shoots a 6.5MM Swede and the so called 95 gr. bullet for varmints doesn't do what a varmint bullet is supposed to do. It doesn't open up on the smaller game(even coyotes) where the 75 gr. .257 V-Max will turn a ground squirrel into a red mist. Don't believe that the .25-06 won't take deer out to 400 yards because I've taken mule deer with mine at those ranges. I own three .25-06's and have been a fan of the caliber before Remington made it legal. Great choice and have fun with your new rifle. Lawdog
 

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I was at the range today shooting my 25-06. I love mine and sure I'm that you'll love yours. Try working up some loads with Barnes X 115 gr. bullets for deer. The 25-06 has enough velocity to expand that bullet at nearly 500 yds. It's a stone cold killer, that's for damn sure! Congrats on an excellent choice!
 

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I have been shooting a sako 25-06 for the last 20 years. Since the Nosler introduced Ballistic Tip bullets, I have used nothing else and have had great success for mule deer and antelope using 100 grain bullets.
 

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The opening statement by 480 Ruger is an eye opener! :eek: No disrespect intended. . . but his big caliber rifle is a 308 and he is looking for a "medium caliber". This just goes to show the diversity of what anyone across the USA would consider a high caliber rifle. For instance, I would consider the 308 a medium caliber :lol: . Also what is considered a great caliber rifle for a specific purpose has a wide array of opinions. I am not a fan of being politically correct or of politically driven diversity ideas. But I can really appreciate the diversity of favorite rifle calibers. :)

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Was sort of my thought too---after reading the list of calibers owned----I was thinking he needs something like a .338 or .300 Win mag.
 

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I agree with you. In fact I consider the .308 as a "smaller" caliber, just a little bit shy of what I consider a "medium" caliber, the 30-06.

I don't know what size Mule deer you hunt, but I actually consider the 25-06 a little on the light side. I've shot a couple big bucks, a 5x5 that was pushing 285 lbs, and a 4x5 that was probably 250 lbs. I know that the 25-06 is very popular for deer, but I'd want just a little bit more bullet weight. That doesn't mean your choice is wrong, you probably are a better shot that I am. I just want to drop them on the spot, or close to it. For me the right choice starts at the .270 which I think is "thee Mule deer rifle" and might end at the .300 Winchester mag. I'm not a fan of that kind of recoil, but if a buck is at 400 yards, you've certainly got the power and range to drop him. I'd use the 30-06 instead of the 300 myself because I don't like recoil that much and won't use a big gun unless I absolutely have too.

One thing I know for sure, when he's a big one, and his antlers are way up over his ears, your heart is going to be doing the "wango tango." A little more horsepower can make up for a small "buck fever" induced tremble at the "jerk" of the trigger...
 

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Zachary said:
Most bullets need about 2000 fps to expand reliably. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the 260 with a 140 grain bullet travels at 2000 fps or more at 400 yards. Besides, shooting, hitting, and dropping a 50 pound target at 500 yards is not a great analogy in my opinion. :?

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Remington on-line catalog shows that the 25-06 with both 115 and 120 gr arrive at 400 yards with a tad more than 2000 ft/sec, as does the 260 Rem in 120 & 140 gr bullets.

My .02 — I like both, but if you've already got the .308 & don't have a .243, the 25-06 is closer to filling the gap.
 
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