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There are 2 handi's that caught my eye at the local gun store. One is 308 with wood and the other is 30-06 synthetic. Wood is $209 and Synthetic is $215. Which is better with handi's wood or synthetic??? I cant make up my mind and need some help!
 

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Synthetics won't warp if they get wet...wood will...otherwise choose whichever feels better to you...

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just remember that the 30-06 with Synthetics will woop on you a good bit. i'm really a big fan of the 308win but so that is what i would tell you to get but think mac hit it on the head just get the one that fits you the best.
 

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A .30/06 has more recoil than a .308, but the real difference here will be the stocks. The synthetic stocked .30/06 will be a much lighter rifle so it will have a much higher recoil. As was pointed out, stock fit is important. A good fitting stock will recoil straight back and not tend to jump as much.

On the other hand, if you don't mind the recoil, the lighter rifle will be easier to carry on hunting trips. Both of these calibres are excellent for hunting. Most agree that the .30/06 has slightly more energy and the .308 has slightly better accuracy. I said most agree, not everyone agrees.

Either one will be a good choice.
 

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That would be a tough choice, both are good calibers. You will have more recoil with the 30-06 like everyone else has said. I to would have to say pick the one that feels the best in your hands and enjoy it. :grin:

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If you handload the 308 can duplicate the 30/06 with lighter bullets up to 150 grain , but if you would like the heavier bullets the 180 for example this is where the 30/06 shines. The smaller case of the 308 yeilds higher pressure then the 06 case does with the lighter bullets this gives higher velocitys.If you intend to ever use it on Elk or Moose the 308 will do the job but i would rather go with the 06. Just my opinion
 

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If you intend to ever use it on Elk or Moose the 308 will do the job but i would rather go with the 06. Just my opinion
Don't tell the elk gods that cuz I've killed 14 elk in as many years with one shot each with a .308 win!!! They would never have known the difference!!! :wink:

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Quick i have no experience with the 308 but i do have a few 30/06's in the cabinet. I am curious being that you have experience with the 308 do you think the 30/06 would be a better choice for the big bears of Alaska or would you say the 06 and 308 would be equal for all game?
 

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The big advantage the '06 has over the 308 is larger 200 and 220 grain bullets can be loaded in it, the 308's case capacity limits the larger bullet size. For big bears, I wouldn't choose either, I'd rather have at least a 45-70 or possibly a 338-06 or 35 whelen if I were limited to non-magnums....For deer, black bear, elk and moose, I don't think there's enough difference in the performance between the 2 in 180gr premium bullets to pick one over the other, they'll both kill all of those dead right there with the right shot placement.

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I hear ya Quick i myself love the .338 winchester magnum. And i have been thinking on switching to Cast performance 420 hard cast for my 45/70. Later Tanoose
 

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I don't have any experience with the .308, but I do have a synthetic Handi in 30-06. Was my primary deer gun this year. I am not particularly recoil sensitive, but the 06 is not punishing in my opinion. I don't own any standard wood stock Handis so can't compare weights.
 

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Can you do the same tricks on synthetic like you can the wood stocks? Like the O-ring trick and things like that?
 

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Yes, you can, but it takes a different size O ring for the synthetic stock, a thinner O ring works better, I've found out, even half of a grommet will work, placed in the bottom of the forend stud hole. There is no separate spacer on the synthetic forend, so there's no way to change how tight the forend is, and consequently how tight the action is, like you can on the wood/laminated forends.

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I've always liked wood better than synthetic, but does is the synthetic hold up to heavy recoil better than wood, or vice-versa? I like the fit of both and i liked the lighter weight of synthetic but i like the look of the wood? What the heck do I do???? :shock:
 

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Heh heh, that's a personal decision you'll have ta make for yourself.....recoil isn't an issue for either as far as durability, they'll both do the job. Recoil for the shooter is heavier per caliber with the synthetic since it's lighter in weight. You can always refinish a wood stock, but about the only thing you can do to a synthetic is paint it.

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I normally don't have any input for topics like this, but if I were in the posotion of having to choose between a plain wood and synthetic stock, I'd choose the synthetic. I currently have my friends 243 synthetic stocked Handi in my closet, been doing a good bit of cast shooting with it. I notice that the rifel shoots well regardless of what the weather has been, I cannot say that for four other rifles I have, two of which have the laminate stocks. Even though I have sealed the laminates with low gloss spar varnish, they still seam to shift around a bit with hot/cold/dry/wet/ conditions.

It is obvious that whoever had the 243 before my friend had added weight to the stock, and this is a simple thing to do that does have a real influence on the recoil, as does adding a better recoil pad. I also like the non slip surface of the sythetic.

As to the chamberings, it must be kept in mind that the 308 was originally developed for the military, the requirement being that it must drive a 150 grain bullet to 2700 fps, the standard loading for the 30-06 at the time. The intent was to create a box magazine fed rifle, as opposed to the clip system of the Garand, and it was felt that a shorter case would facilitate more reliable feeding. The 308 was meant to be a short case 30-06, and so it is.

As deer rifles go, I can't imagine there would be any difference at all. a 150 grain bullet at 2800 fps is a 150 grain bullet at 2800 fps, as is a 180 at 2600. Both of these have long histories as service and game cartridges and I can't imagine that a failure of either in the game field would be a result of the ballistics either is capable of.
 

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Well, Ive never had a synthetic handi so maybe its time i tried one out and quit sweating about it. Who knows I may like it better than wood?!?! What is your preference, wood or synthetic? And thanks for all the advice and replies! :D
 
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