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yes I know what I'm asking, what shellholder do I need to hold .410 in a standard press? 13 is too small, Thanks in advance
 

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Shellholders for the belted mags are the right diameter, but I am not sure about thickness. I keep a Quinetics Universal on my bench for stuff like this. Lacking one, I would have at a spare shellholder with a Dremel tool and a fiberglass cutoff wheel reduced to just less than rim diameter.
 
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