Seems you're pretty definite with your opinion relative to the 45 Colt. The 45 Colt can be had with either a 5 or 6 shot cylinder. The 6 shot Ruger Redhawk or a 5 shot Freedom Arms or any 5-shot custom revolver can handle about all the pressure you will want to handle and that 44 magnum will play h*ll keeping up.No it can not...I see this all the time and it simply is not correct. Now having said that, the 45 Colt when loaded with the upper end of Ruger/TC loads will equal and sometimes exceed the killing power of the 44 magnum. It will do this simply because of heavier bullets and a larger diameter and do it with less pressure but, it will not be a hotter load than the 44 magnum.
There are none so blind as those who do not care to see.Ok I will apologize ahead of time for getting off the original topic, but I felt the need to clear up a few things as I see them. This is strictly my opinion but I believe it is a pretty good rule of thumb.
If you have a can that is labeled beans and you open it to find corn, that doesn't make the contents beans. It makes it a can of corn mislabeled as beans.
A 45 Colt cartridge loaded above SAAMI spec's for vintage Colt pistols and the like are no longer 45 Colt rounds. Just like a 38 special loaded to 357 magnum spec's is no longer a 38 special or a 44 special loaded to 44 magnum is no longer a 44 special or a 45-70 loaded to T/C/Ruger level is no longer a 45-70. Just because the head stamp says 45 Colt, that does not mean that is what it is. If you are saying that it is still a 45 Colt, then by all means load it up in that antique revolver and pull the trigger, just let me know in advance so I can be well clear of the blast sight, get the paramedics on the way and survive so I can direct them to the site of the carnage.
It's funny how folks talk about hot rodding one and comparing it to another limiting it to SAAMI spec's.
When you load one of these high powered 45colt rounds what percentage increase is there in pressure? If you are comparing two different calibers, wouldn't it be fair to increase the pressure by the same percentage, as well as have the same weight projectiles? How much difference is there in case capacity?
It's always more details to consider when comparing two things that are marginally different.
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I fixed your quoteNaw, when you indicate one caliber has an advantage over another - well, maybe so and then again maybe no. I just pointed out that the "modern" 44 magnum is one super fine caliber but the "modern" 45 Colt can dance every tune with the 44 Magnum. We are not talking about balloon head cases and 1st generation colt peacemakers here - the Ruger Redhawk, Freedom Arms and BFG's - they can handle the pressure, as can 45 Colt Starline brass, that the 44 magnums were built to and then some. Other revolvers? probably not, but I'm not referring to those "other" revolvers. A mans got to know his limitations.
John Linebaugh crowned the 45 Colt, King of the Hill, between these two calibers and that's the way it will remain
You can reload "hotter". I use loads in my Classic Carbine that are for Ruger Old Model Vaq, FA revolvers, Marlin 1894, etc.. The +P loadsI now own a 45 Colt Buffalo Classic Carbine. I have to say it's got a very nice feel to it. The short length is perfect for the ground blind. I really hate to scope it, but a peep is my only other option, so I'm deep in thought. Going by the HX prefix I come up with a 2007 year. It doesn't say SB2 anywhere on the barrel or receiver. I plan on starting out with standard (not Cowboy) ammo. Should I decided to reload for it am I safe to go hotter??
Any book load is safe including Ruger-T/C loads.I now own a 45 Colt Buffalo Classic Carbine. I have to say it's got a very nice feel to it. The short length is perfect for the ground blind. I really hate to scope it, but a peep is my only other option, so I'm deep in thought. Going by the HX prefix I come up with a 2007 year. It doesn't say SB2 anywhere on the barrel or receiver. I plan on starting out with standard (not Cowboy) ammo. Should I decided to reload for it am I safe to go hotter??
If I can drop a deer inside 100 yards, and realistically where I'm hunting, will be inside 50 yards, then I'm happy. I think I'm going to try the Federal American Eagle 225 gr JSP's and see how they do. If I need more than what a 45 Colt +P will do I'll go to my 45/70.The factory Classic Carbine in 45C is an SB-2 frame. The same frame that will take the 45-70 to Marlin lever gun loads or, as some have said, to the Ruger No.1 level loads.
Factory 45C loads are downloads in todays world because the factories do not know what you are going to put them into that is labeled 45C. The 'cowboy loads' are more like the 44Spl. compared to the 44Magnum, so think of them as 45'Spl'.
The factory loads will probably do all the 'work' you need done. If they would not I would go to the 444 or 45-70 rather than stoke the 45C up, but thats just me and my way of looking at things.
IIRC we've had members here get into low end trapdoor 45/70 ballistics with their 45 Colt carbines using RL7 powder with 300 grain bullets. The 45 Colt from a rifle length barrel is a beast with the right loads. We had another member chronograph the heavy 45 Colt 325 grain hard cast Buffalo Bore loads through his carbine and the velocity was well over 1700 fps, equal in energy to a factory 300 grain trapdoor load.Looks like a max load of H110 makes the 44 Mag (240 gr) and 45 Colt (250 gr) kissing cousins. The 44 is about 75 fps faster but the 45 makes lower pressure. Think I’m gonna like this just fine.