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Until now I had never heard of this woman. Other than not agreeing with women preachers, which God teaches against, I tried to compare her with other male preachers.
Skeptical on her healing abilities, her praying in tongues, and not sure what she means by "her intimate relationship wit the Holy Spirit".
The one thing I noticed is that other than being against scriptural teaching, no where could i find her net worth.
All others i checked, Hagee, Duplantis, Swaggart ect. Listed their net worth.
Odd.
 

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wow, you are really caught up with the temporal.
Paul speaks against women preachers, sort of, Jesus didn't.
Paul also spoke of how there is no longer, Jew, nor Greek, male nor female, we are all one
in Christ, and all will be needed for the revival work before His return.
We are not to pick out a verse or two and plant our whole understanding on it.
 

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Based on what Paul writes in Romans I’ve never understood the need for praying in “prayer languages”. The practice runs contrary to what Paul teaches.

26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. - Romans 8:26-27
 

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wow, you are really caught up with the temporal.
Paul speaks against women preachers, sort of, Jesus didn't.
Paul also spoke of how there is no longer, Jew, nor Greek, male nor female, we are all one
in Christ, and all will be needed for the revival work before His return.
We are not to pick out a verse or two and plant our whole understanding on it.
Wow! Your really defensive of Scripture that teaches the woman will not teach the man.
You can accept scripture or pretend it isn't there like the Methodist or the Pentecostal, or AofC, but it is.
Also praying in tongues is discouraged in scripture by Paul.
She may look all holy and religious while she's jabbering but, the listener has no idea of what shes saying, so it is of no benefit to the service.

I did watch, and checked her other videos out. She's more fraudulent than Paula White, and that saying something.
 

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No Lloyd, you are still far from what He died to bring you.
 

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My 8th grade sister got caught up in the occult when I was a kid and scared the bajeepers out of me. She babbled in tongues like nobody's business. It all started when my nutcase uncle came home from California talking about madam so an so giving him the ability to see visions. My sister prayed that she would also be able to see visions. The visions that she saw were all demonic in nature. Her vain babblings were the stuff in which horror movies are made from. She tried to commit suicide twice and then dropped off the radar. I have not seen nor heard from her in years.

I went to a revival service at an unnamed church years ago and it got a little weird for me. A lady stood up and started jabbering away. The next thing I know she is rolling around on the floor showing her panties to the whole crowd. The last time that I saw anything close to that was at a biker rally and there was LSD involved. I left both that church and the bike rally pronto. God/The Holy Spirit was not a factor in either incident.

However, I am not going to sell the Holy Spirit short and say that He won't intercede for us in tongues. I have had two very good friends that were prayer warriors. Biker Steve came to know the Lord and grew to the point where he had a burden for souls like no one that I have ever known. He told me that when he was at the side of his bed at night and praying so hard for someone's salvation that he was burdened to tears that then the Holy Spirit would come over him and he would talk in an unknown tongue. It never happened in the presents of others and always when he was in his prayer closet(side of his bed) and very tuned into getting down to business with God. The other person is a an older lady that goes to our current church. This lady spends half of her day reading the Bible and and praying. She didn't ask for it to happen, it just happened and continues to happen when she is alone with God. I don't know any two people who were more devout followers of God than these two folk. I am convinced that what they experienced was divine intervention of the Holy Spirit.

I have heard of people praying to receive the gift of tongues. I would caution against that as the gift of tongues that you receive may not come from God. Satan is the deceiver looking for an open door. On the other hand a person that is walking with God daily, is really given over to God and is giving the Holy Spirit the reins to guide him will absolutely not be an open door for Satan. Any gift of tongues that they receive will not cause them to foam at the mouth or roll around on the floor showing their backside. It will be discrete and devine!

That's my take on it....I am open for rebuttal and most likely will get it. I will listen with open ears as long as biting snakes and the Rougarou stay out of it! Ha!
 

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No Lloyd, you are still far from what He died to bring you.
Lloyd?
So I don't agree with you on this gal.
Are we name calling here goodshot.
 

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wow, you are really caught up with the temporal.
Paul speaks against women preachers, sort of, Jesus didn't.
Paul also spoke of how there is no longer, Jew, nor Greek, male nor female, we are all one
in Christ, and all will be needed for the revival work before His return.
We are not to pick out a verse or two and plant our whole understanding on it.

That doesn't fly in the KJB if you rightly divide it. Just saying. All those new bibles written by man it may be in there.
 

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The "callings" are the result of the born again infilling of Holy Spirit.
An "outward form" Christian will not perceive this.
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The "callings" are the result of the born again infilling of Holy Spirit.
An "outward form" Christian will not perceive this.
bye
Sorry, I had forgotten how much more christiany you were than me.😁
 

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Tongues were and are, foreign languages. On the day of Pentecost the disciples spoke in the languages of the different people collected there.
And the NT tells us that speaking in a "tongue" has to have an interpreter.

My daughter can speak in tongues. English and Spanish.

The so-called tongues of today is just gibberish.
 

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Nothing G-d creates is gibberish.
It has been proven scientifically and repeatedly the region of the brain a prayer language
originates is not where speech originates.
If it wasn't also given to believers now, then G-d is a liar, as He clearly told us He is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
 

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Tongues were and are, foreign languages. On the day of Pentecost the disciples spoke in the languages of the different people collected there.
And the NT tells us that speaking in a "tongue" has to have an interpreter.

My daughter can speak in tongues. English and Spanish.

The so-called tongues of today is just gibberish.
Well, I read it as they spoke in their own tongue, and everyone heard in in their own tongue.
But I guess it sounds holier when everybody is yabadabadoin at the same time.
 

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I've shared this story before but it is always relevant in a tongues discussion.

A friend was in the Air Force stationed in Germany in the '90's. A Baptist missionary friend stayed with them during that time and they worked with him at times doing mission work. This was when there were large immigrant camps of Arabic speaking people coming into Germany. One night they were in a camp. It was typical for people to be outside with fires going in barrels in the evening. On this particular evening the missionaries started singing hymns and a group gathered around them. This transitioned into a presentation of the Gospel. While this was going on my friend took note of an elderly man standing at the edge of the light with his young grandson. He was compelled to speak with him and did so after the meeting was over. He approached him and spoke in English to which the gentleman answered in his native Arabic tongue. The man then spoke to my friend in German.

Per his admission, my friend did not nor does he now speak fluent German. He says that he was fluent in naming the food that he wanted to order in a restaurant. However, when the gentleman spoke to him in German a conversation started and flowed through to its completion. The missionary, who spoke German was observing the conversation. After it was over he asked my friend if he realized what had happened. He said, "No". What had been observed by the Missionary was two adult men carrying on a fluent conversation using grammatically correct German. After the conversation was over my friend had no idea what had been said between each of the men. I have spoken to the missionary about this event and he confirmed my friends story.

As bugeye said, this is an example of "speaking in tongues". I have had the fortunate misfortune of being in services where tongues and crazy antics were the rage. Not one time did I get the sense that it was from God.

Before I'm accused of being a "name only Christian", I have been open to such things at one point early in my Christian life. It did not happen. However, I am not one who is open to emotional or psychological manipulation. That is what I think that the modern American Church "manifestation" of tongues consists of, a bunch of people who WANT to be emotionally and psychologically manipulated so that they can convince themselves that they are somehow more holy or doing something great for God. Last I checked God does the great things not people.

I rate the little that I watched of this so called teacher as being a bit lower on the scale of importance as what I just flushed down the toilet.
 

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We are in the age of Grace. There are no signs or wonders for us. Just Grace it's so easy people have a hard time believing it.
 

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and in this age Jesus said most would have an
"outward form of godliness, denying the power thereof".
The remnant of true believers will be doing what He asked them to do.
 

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The first indicator that she is a false teacher are the pronouns that she uses. I, me, my, mine as an introduction to the “her-ness” of herself. She doesn’t speak about Christ but about herself. A real preacher speaks of Christ and leaves self on the sideline.

The second indicator that she is a false teacher is related to the first. As she talks about her rise to spiritual guru status she is beginning the psychological manipulation that she will use throughout the rest of the talk. The manipulation is one that pushes the audience to begin considering her greatness and their lack of greatness. Look at my Power. Compare yourself to me. I’m not like her. I don’t have that power. I’d like to have that power.

The stage is set once this contrast is established. For the rest of the speech the audience will be manipulated to want what they are told that she has. By the time it’s over they will be salivating to buy her books, make donations to her “ministry”, wear her T shirt and the special cross necklace which she has blessed.
 
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