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T3 Lite .308

Hunting: Roe Deer (very small, light boned), occasional fox and pig. Range up to 150 meters. Thinking of the Federal Low-Recoil load. It's basically a .30-30. Shouldn't blow away the roe bucks like the standard .308 did but should still take the pigs with a good shot right?

Hunting: Red Deer (bigger than Whitetail, smaller than elk), bigger pigs (boars), fallow deer. Range up to 250 meters. I want to use a bullet that will penetrate deeply ( I like exit holes) and expand well. Big boars up close at night need to drop NOW not later... What to use??? Y'all got ideas???

All must be factory loaded rounds...

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I think you will be better served with just a single load. I assume your "blown away" deer had lots of meat damage. Switch to a bullet that doesn't expand so violently, like a Swift A-Frame and use it for all your hunting needs.
 

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The roe buck was taken at about 80 yards with a Barnes bullet (don't know exact type) that was blue coated (Moly?). This was borrowed gun that I knew was a sub-half inch gun. The bullet hit just behind the shoulder. Exited far side with not too bad of a hole but the body cavity was blown open and guts hanging out. Seems like it just exploded. I was just thinking that a slower bullet might not make them pop like a balloon! Anyway, here in Germany, lot's of times you just hunt and whatever walks out that is in season gets shot. Deer overlap with pigs, fox and other. While I might be deer hunting I might just HAVE to take a meat pig or two. Those would be smaller pigs as well. I guess I could go with a single load. That's what I do with my '06 at home. Also, if I talk the family finance manager into a red deer or fallow deer I also have a Steyr .376. It's about like a .375 H&H.

So who loads the Swift in factory fodder? I guess I could always go with NP's but would prefer a more "modern" bullet (even if it doesn't kill them any "deader").

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That's what I do with my '06 at home.............So who loads the Swift in factory fodder?
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Remington loads A frames, but not in 308 I don't believe. 30-06 yes. Not sure if that helps though.
 

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I definitely prefer a more controlled expansion bullet. After I lost a pretty nice 6-point in 'Bama one time to a 40 yard shot into his shoulder with a soft point .30-'06. He rolled over completely but after six hours of looking, tracking and searching we never found him. I've never had a Fail Safe blow up on anything. I don't need the Fail Safe here. I need SOME expansion on the little deer here as well as on small hogs. There are just SO many options for good bullets out there that I need to choose from. I have to have some hand carried in from US by a buddy on TDY. Over here .308 is about 50 Euro a box for premium stuff. That's somewhere in the 70$ a box range. I'm counting on my T3 shooting acceptably with a good quality factory round. Even a 1.5" group would be sat for me for right now.


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