longwinters· Premium Member
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Are bolt actions still considered more accurate than pumps, levers and semi-autos? Just wonderin.
I have to say sometimes its the shooter and sometimes its the gun not being sighted in properly with the correct ammo i think they all can be as good as each other if they were sighted in right. My brother has a very accurate remington pump in '06 using my reloads of course. And my bolt action '06 wasn't worth snots till i reloaded for it then it became more accurate. It also depends on what you call accurate too? My '06 will put 3 shots in the diameter of a quarter and my 338 will put two bullets thru the same hole both bolt actions and my egyptian hakim will destroy a coffee up at 100 yards with open sites and my swede mauser will shoot under 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards open sites but don't forget the three bolts were sighted in and the semi-auto hakim wasn't. It all depends how good you are on that day too or how good you want to be on that day if we focus and stay motivated to shoot good?? There are a lot of things to consider in the errors is what i'm getting at. BigBilllongwinters said:Are bolt actions still considered more accurate than pumps, levers and semi-autos? Just wonderin.
If you've got the pocketbook, Springfield arms has the M25 "white feather" M1A .308 rifle that they guarantee for 1/2" groups with the right ammunition. That said; it costs $4000. For that amount you can get a custom bolt-action that will shoot 1/4" or better groups (if the shooter is up to it).longwinters said:Are bolt actions still considered more accurate than pumps, levers and semi-autos? Just wonderin.
Yes, you are correct on this. While you can blueprint a single-shot action and install a custom barrel, only certain single shot actions that float the fore-end completely MAY be able to come close to the best bolt actions. They are still held back by things such as a slower lock time (the time between pulling the trigger and the firing pin hitting the primer). The Ruger is slow this way. It has a heavy hammer (accelerates at a slower rate than most bolt actions). You can purchase a lighter hammer and a stronger firing pin spring to lessen lock time, but then you have the trigger pull which is almost always easier to lighten in a bolt setup. Brownells sells a device (It is called a Hicks Accurizer) that is installed on the Ruger's forearm hanger and allows you to play with upward barrel pressure until you get the right combination. You should also float the forend completely and make sure that the barrel extension on top is not touching the receiver (Brownell's also sells a replacement to take care of this. Then get the lighter hammer and heavier spring from Brownells, and finally; replace the trigger with a Canjar set model and if your barrel is decent from the factory, you will probably get groups that will make you forget any bolt-action. Been there and done that. I love the Nunber 1B Hornet that I have, but I wouldn't go through all that again with another one.hillbill said:hey guys, someone earlier mentioned the single shot rifles because of the rigidity. i have a no. 1, have relaoded for it but althougth it is a great rifle i cnat get it to group any better than my bolts. i havent tuned on it yet though. i am suspecting the 2 piece stock as the the culprit. i have heard stories of adjusting the forearm tension on these guns to raise accuracy. i myself believe the 1 piece stock of the bolt guns is an advantge anybody else have this opinion?
Let the rifle completely cool down between shots 5 min at least, You may be suprized at what the ol 7400 can dojim21 said:Dont buy a Remington model 7400 semi in .270,mine shoots like crap. 8)
Are those full size or compact Hummers?Don Fischer said:Good chance that the average hunter couldn't put a hole in a Hummer at 500 or 600 yds.