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They should. When the US pulled out of the Trans Pacific Pact, which did NOT include China, that left the West and South Pacific open for China to dominate. We will be talking about this like we talk about all the "jobs" and "manufacturing" going to China today. We seem to make our own mess.
 

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They should. When the US pulled out of the Trans Pacific Pact, which did NOT include China, that left the West and South Pacific open for China to dominate. We will be talking about this like we talk about all the "jobs" and "manufacturing" going to China today. We seem to make our own mess.
^^^^^^ this.
 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/briefing/china-india-salmon-us-protest-art.html

An anti-China backlash in India
Anger is surging in India over the loss of 20 soldiers in a brutal, hand-to-hand border clash with Chinese troops fought with clubs and rods studded with nails. There have been angry calls to shut down Chinese restaurants and tear up contracts with Chinese companies. Crowds have smashed Chinese-made televisions in the street.

Generals from the two countries met again on Thursday to discuss de-escalation in the Himalayan border zone where the brawl erupted, but satellite images indicated that Chinese troops had yet to pull back.

Some Indian Army officers want to change the rules of engagement and abandon the border code that does not allow the use of guns during confrontations.

Spillover in trade: The Indian Express newspaper reported that the government was preparing to cancel a huge railway contract with a Chinese company.

Protests have broken out across India to boycott Chinese goods, a move that would not be easy. The phones in most Indians’ hands are made in China, as are countless other products. India-China trade has grown to more than $95 billion in 2018 from $3 billion in 2000. As of last year, India’s trade deficit with China reached nearly $60 billion.


https://graphics.reuters.com/INDIA-CHINA/BATTLE/yxmvjkzxwpr/

India-China dispute

Satellite images suggest Chinese activity at India's Himalayan border before clash

By Simon Scarr and Sanjeev Miglani
PUBLISHED JUNE 19, 2020
In the days leading up to the most violent border clash between India and China in decades, China brought in pieces of machinery, cut a trail into a Himalayan mountainside and may have even dammed a river, satellite pictures suggest.

The fighting was triggered by a row over two Chinese tents and observation towers that India said had been built on its side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC), Indian government sources in New Delhi and on the Indian side of the border in the Ladakh region said.

The clash was the most serious since 1967. Since early May, soldiers have faced off on the border where India says Chinese troops had intruded and set up temporary structures. The confrontation turned into a deadly brawl on Monday.

China had sought to erect a “structure” in the Galwan Valley on India’s side of the LAC even after military officials had reached an agreement on June 6 to de-escalate, Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told China’s senior diplomat, Wang Yi, in a phone call on Wednesday, the Indian Foreign Ministry said. It was not immediately clear to what structure he was referring.

The problem arose when an Indian patrol visited the area near a ridge to verify a Chinese assertion that its troops had moved back from the LAC, the two government sources aware of the military situation said.

The Chinese troops had thinned out and left behind the two tents and small observation posts. The Indian party demolished the towers and burnt the tents, the sources said.

The satellite image (above) shows possible debris from the observation posts on Tuesday morning on a ridge on India’s side of the LAC. There was no such structure in the image taken a week earlier.

But the Indian response prompted a backlash. A large group of Chinese soldiers arrived and confronted the Indian troops, led by Colonel Santosh Babu. They were lightly armed in line with the rules of engagement at the LAC, one of the sources said.

The path to confrontation
The images, shot on Tuesday, a day after soldiers engaged in hand-to-hand combat in the freezing Galwan Valley, show an increase in activity from a week earlier.

The satellite pictures, taken by Earth-imaging company Planet Labs and obtained by Reuters, show signs of altering the landscape of the valley through widening tracks, moving earth and making river crossings, one expert said.

The images shows machinery along the bald mountains and in the Galwan River.

“Looking at it in Planet, it looks like China is constructing roads in the valley and possibly damming the river,” Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at California’s Middlebury Institute of International Studies.

“There are a ton of vehicles on both sides (of the LAC) - although there appear to be vastly more on the Chinese side. I count 30-40 Indian vehicles and well over 100 vehicles on the Chinese side.”

Reuters counted and marked all of the structures, vehicles and equipment that were visible in the image from June 16.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said he was unaware of the specifics on the ground but reiterated that the Indian army had crossed into China’s territory in several places in recent days and that they should withdraw.

The 4,056-km (2,520-mile) border between India and China runs through glaciers, snow deserts and rivers in the west to thickly forested mountains in the east.

The Galwan Valley is an arid, inhospitable area, where some soldiers are deployed on steep ridges. It is considered important because it leads to the Aksai Chin, a disputed plateau claimed by India but controlled by China.

India and China have not exchanged gunfire at the border since 1967, despite occasional flare-ups. Soldiers are under instructions to keep their rifles slung at their backs.

It was not clear what happened after the Chinese soldiers arrived , but the two sides soon clashed, with the Chinese using iron rods and batons with spikes, one of the sources said.

Colonel Babu was one of the 20 victims, they said. More Indian troops were rushed in and the confrontation turned into an hours-long brawl eventually involving up to 900 soldiers, the source said. Still no shots were fired on either side.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao rejected the Indian version of the events. “The rights and wrongs of this incident are very clear. The responsibility does not lie with China.”


hmmmmm i wonder what the US Navy PACFLT will do now that we giving up on the Pacific? i guess that they will all go to Pearl Harbor and anchor up. i mean, its not unlike DEC 7, 1941 ever happened?
 

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They should learn to defend themselves about time. USA has not Done anything Militarily right in 75 years and we are not going to start now.
 

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just fyi....Australian military since 1946

korea war 1950-53
Malayan Emergency, 1950–60
Indonesia-Malaysia Confrontation, 1962–66
Vietnam War, 1962–73
Gulf War, 1991
East Timor, 1999–2013
Afghanistan, 2001–present
Iraq, 2003–11
Military intervention against ISIS, 2014–present

and a bunch of skirmishes that history forgets.
 

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Australia joined in with us in WW2 and Vietnam.


They were also in Korea and a lot of other Adventures, but the US is not the world's keeper. This month in US history we begin the long retreat in Korea and will continue to retreat for basically the next 12 months. If you read real US Military history it's now like a John Wayne movie we have had more bad moments than good. Not knocking them just use your GNP to protect yourself and not ours.
 
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