OK, Now I'm confused again. I thought Tim B was our sponsor as I posted earlier. Now I think it's Bogmaster (sorry agian). Does Roger Ruginus still post on this forum??? He is Michigan's largest beaver fur buyer. and I've video tapped him skinning and fleshing a 35 lb beaver in 12 minutes!!! I'll give Roger a call and ask if he can respond to this question as Bogmasters response is more than than I can help as he obviously knows more than me on this particular topic.