Very true lawdog, seems to be the same with deer rifles as well. I've had 2 side by side 410s for a number of years one with rabbit ears the other hammerless. More swamp rabbits fell to the 2 1/2" #6 than any other gauge I own. It just seemed to tear them up less than my 20s,16s and 12s. Now that I think of it I never had a swamper run more than one hop after being hit by the 410. Brings back som memories frog123, I guess that's what's most important about hunting, the memories.