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Browning Phonecall Read This Folks!

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Hey folks, :(

I just called Browning and sat through about 8 layers of recorded phone system selections. I called to find out whether the 1885 Traditional Hunter in 45Colt would be OK with Ruger/TC load pressures. (Just checking on what some of you folks said.)

Here was their answer when I finally got to a person. "The rifle is designed for factory ammo." and "The pressure data is proprietary. Can't help you beyond that." Well "factory ammo" does not mean much anymore with all of the custom factory ammo out there. Why won't they choose a conservative pressure level and quote that?

I guess I just expect too much from the company wearing John Browning's name (and Winchester too by the way). Are they too consumed by legal speak or just out of touch with the shootin scene - or both?

I work in the aerospace & defense scene and any company that won't relase a simple spec. or capability like that does not get the contract. So, that leaves me wondering if I am limited to cowboy loads or I can safely shoot Ruger - T/C loads listed in my half a dozen manuals. I know what everyone says about staring low and working up. Yeah I do that. But if I know I can't get to where I want to be - no sense starting.

This is not encouraging me to pick up that little 1885 45 colt - even if it is a sweet little rifle. I need to know whether I can push my 300 g lead beauties out this puppy ala Paco. (See )

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Wal Scout the sad reality is that you ain't gonna get ANY manufacturer of handguns to tell you it is OK to use ANY reload in them. Heck TC wouldn't even admit that in the barrels they sold that were strictly wildcat calibers for which factory ammo has never been made..

The reason is they have no control over the loading practices nor the pressures and just ain't gonna play. Factory ammo these days means anything made by any company that uses all new components and correctly handstamped brass to produce ammo. That includes folks like Garrett, COR-BON and Buffalo Bore all of whom make some really hot stuff. It is factory ammo. So call back and ask if the rifle is OK for use with factory loads from Buffalo Bore. IF so for dang shore it will handle the Ruger/TC level hand loads as that stuff Tim is putting out is some kinda hot.

You do as ya wish. If I owned one, which I don't, I'd use the Ruger/TC load data in mine.

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