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That fine upstanding Karzai government that the US put in place sure is a trick. Yep, the Chinese are winning, thats a fact. The political pukes that we sent to DC sold the US economy to China for campaign contributions and bribes. They rail on and on about socialism while selling the US down the drain to the communist Chinese army.
 

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Doesn't sound much like the Chinese are socialists anymore.
This will be the last test of Obama in office. If he doesn't handle this well enough he's in it for all the wrong reasons. I really thougt this guy would get US soldiers back home, pull out of Iraq, where no man should be. I know I've rooted for education and information toward children of fundamentalist islamists in order for them to gain perspective, but the Western countries should pull out of Iraq and cut their losses there, if people don't want freedom and democracy, you have to give them more time.
Afganistan is somewhat a different matter, there is still a chance to turn things around there, but only by eliminating the taliban regime.
 

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Yes, it makes sense to get out now, except for the spies.

Obama already has botched this thing by letting it go on so long. About 20 Americans died in Afghanistan within the past week or so, and for no good reason or purpose. Their lives were wasted.
 

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Pull all our troops and let the Communist settle down the Musliums.
 

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We should pull out of china and do our manufacturing in Afganistan.
Cheaper labor, Building the country, if they have a job the don't sit around making hate speaches on how AMERICA is the great Satan.
 
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