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As is already known now on this forum, my chosen rifle for boar over the years has been my Remington 700 .30-06 using a Sierra 180 grain Round Nose Pro-Hunter bullet... However, if you have read other threads, you also know that I am going to use my Marlin 1895 lever action .45-70 this spring with a cast lead 340 grain (Lee mold) bullet that I cast form a blend of wheel weight and tin solder... But... just out of curiosity, I have been wondering, do any of you have a particular jacketed bullet for this class .45-70 that you like for med. to large boar? Thanks. Dave
 

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I know you an GB are partial to them hardcast bullets. Howsomever, I have not taken a shine to em as I don't see the need to penatrate 12 Chrysler Hemi Head engine blocks :lol:

Now in as far a rooters go, leastways the herd up this neck a the woods, ya gotta wreck em to kill em square. IF, an that's a BIG if, ya'll are spot on enough to gurantee busting shoulder bones with them hardcast, then you're gonna have a downed hog.

Notice I said down. NOT dead! I have seen em my ownself with both shoulders busted and they have their asses in the air squealin and tryin to make off. They are FAR from dead. I like to take a 10 or 12 inch bowie to em at that point, but you gotta be fast as they can still get into ya. If you sink it right, in the heart, you'll hear an ear splittin squeal as hot blood pours out over your knife hand.

You gotta have SOME expansion to tear em up proper. In the 45-70, I prefer a Hornady 350 roundnose over 48 grains of IMR 4198. This will rip em good in a classic broadside lung scenario, kill em proper with a raking shot, and will bust BOTH shoulders and clean out everything in between!

The other side you already know about. 30-06 with a 180 that holds together, close up. Why that'll rip just about a 3 inch hole on the off side. Blood and lungs will shoot some 3 feet outa the wound and you got a dead rooter. When you see em pumpin like that you know they're bacon.

It's some wicked purty on snow. Oddly enough, one of the BIGGEST holes I ever saw in a pig was done by a hugger usin a 30-30. Twas a handload, just what I dunno, but I swear, that 400 pound hog had a hole in his offside you could near fit a basketball in! Nice! And, brutaly effective :lol:

You can also kill em with a high intensity jobber. Bullet like a Nosler ballistic tip gets in at 3000 fps+ and blows in the vitals works like dynamite. To me, that's anticlimatic. You get a 308 hole going in, nothing out. Sure, the vitals pour out like Niagra Falls when you split em, but me, I like the blood on the ground at the kill site. Kinda the way it was meant ta be :wink:

Where I hunt up in Maine, the owner is touched as I am. He won't get all in a tither about a clean Nosler BT kill. But you open his pigs up, blood let em on the snow, kill a few wounded ones for good measure, spread blood everywhere, why he'll be tellin nimrods about it fer years ta come. :wink:

I got quite the rep up there, folks expect me to do odd stuff. I ain't about to disapoint em :D

Coug
 

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Personally, I think it's a crime to use jackted bullets in a 45-70. Having said that, my buddy and I worked up a load for his Guide Gun, using Remington 405 grain soft points and 50.5 grains of IMR 3031. Shoots MOA groups day in, day out. Recoil is on the stiff side, but tolerable.
 

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This is kind of a "double" response to Coug, and Castaway... Coug, you make a very good point, and one which SHOULD be brought up on a post like this, so that "younger" (less experienced) hunters don't make a somewhat dangerous mistake... Shot placement, depending on the kind of bullet, cast lead, jacketed, or whatever is indeed of prime importance. My point is: I plan to load my rifle so as to take the first shot using my cast lead beauty... followed by (if necessary) something such as the Nosler Partition offering, Barnes X, or something similar... Safety is important too. Now, Castaway, I know exactly what you are saying. The lever guns are the longest running production kind of gun in these United States of America, and absolutely a part of the "Old West Americana"... That said, especially if you are a traditionalist, using a jacketed bullet is sort of a departure from tradition. However, with the advent of the Marlin micro-grove rifling, some of the newer 1895 rifles don't shoot cast lead bullets all that well. Mine does just fine with them though, and my intention is to take a hog not only with a handload, but with a cast lead bullet of my own making. Been taking hogs for years with handload, but just want to go one step further... You made a great point on your post, and I appreciate it.... Dave
 

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You might be surprised what micro-grooved barrels can do with cast bullets. If you shoot them about 0.001 or 0.002 over, they have a good reputation for accuracy.
 
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