My answer is yes on dry land and no at water sets. This is my 2nd year traping them using 1 1/2 c.s. on dry land. I tried to clear away any thing solid they can get a hold of but I still have trouble. I would like to hear the solutions you guys have.
aside from five points john (on the land), im th only one that has trouble holdin coon....so I guess Im the only one that needs help. Whats your point and why do I have trouble holding coon and everyone else aint??
on land I usually am setting for yotes, fox or cats. I use 1.75cs for most sets with the exception of #3cs for my cat sets. The coons I have caught there have been incidentals. I think they are hard to hold because i have seen where the trap hits the animal high on the lower leg and then when i run traps (early morning, usually before light) I see the ol'coon only hanging on by one toe!
in the water i use 1.5cs and used some 1.5Ls till a feller convinced me they were worthless for coon (not sure if I believe that or not) anyway, all my sets are on drounder cables, however i too often see where the coon has refused to go down the cable and instead claws for the land leaving me a empty trap. The chains on my water traps consist of 2 swivels and 3 links...totaling about 6 inches. I usually dig picket sets, and stake as far from shore as i can so the trap stayes as close to the water as possible. Most of my water sets are onder 2-4 inches of water.
help...i wanna learn.
I was asking the questions for a couple of reasons. I personally think the 1.5 cs is the perfect all around trap- if by law I could have only one trap- that would be it. I find coon not at all hard ot hold on land, and I don't worry about tangelements, etc. Only "secrets" are- 1) as one poster stated- bed your traps as for canines 2) use a dog guide stick. #short chain. I use Dukes. On land- my instances of pullouts are very rare- almost non existant.
Now in water- in general, I have little problem with pullouts. On staked or drag sets ( I use logs on small streams) I again have little problem holding coon.
But on drowning wire sets- I have more pullouts than any other type. I find more of this occuring in "high lever" type traps such as the older Victors. I find these empty at the end of the wire 2-3 times a week. My theorey is that as the coon tries to go down the wire, his feet push on the springs, and he looses the grip enough to pull out. The wet foot surely helps this happen.
I thought #11 might take care of this problem, and that problem they do- but I found that, for me, the number of snapped traps was just way too high. In water, most catches are by the back foot, and the back foot on a coon of any size can easily span a #11.
A #11 on land, although I hear of some that have success with it, to me is worthless- it just can't come up through the amount of dirt needed to bed traps properly.
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