CZ accuracy compared to Kimber and Anschutz
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I have never shot any of the rifles you mention but I have heard the cz's shoot great. I will not knock my romainian 69 either take a look at the post I posted titled range report wolf match target 22 (Pic) and see what my 69.00 romainian can do at 25 yards using the russian target ammo. This ammo is great shoots better than the federal target out of the gun. Jim
CZ vs Aschutz...
Asking that comparison is like asking:
Dodge Viper vs. Porche 911 turbo
They are both fine, accurate rifles out of the box.
One is no frills, down and dirty...the other graceful and elegant.
Moral of the story...
the last 10% of accuracy costs more than the first 90%.
i.e.
The CZ is prob 90% as accurate as the Anschutz, with a little work...
Already the rifle is more accurate than I am!
But you gotta lay down some serious cheese to get that tack driving predictability at 100 yards.
Just a thought...CZ is a fine rifle, and wont bust your budget.
Just get a trigger job, and shorten the barrel to about 16" to 18", with a crowned, recessed muzzle.
two bits
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Asking that comparison is like asking:
Dodge Viper vs. Porche 911 turbo
They are both fine, accurate rifles out of the box.
One is no frills, down and dirty...the other graceful and elegant.
Moral of the story...
the last 10% of accuracy costs more than the first 90%.
i.e.
The CZ is prob 90% as accurate as the Anschutz, with a little work...
Already the rifle is more accurate than I am!
But you gotta lay down some serious cheese to get that tack driving predictability at 100 yards.
Just a thought...CZ is a fine rifle, and wont bust your budget.
Just get a trigger job, and shorten the barrel to about 16" to 18", with a crowned, recessed muzzle.
two bits
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I own the CZ452 and would say it is as accurate as the Anshutz. My trigger was fine but i did float the barrel. I have found that my CZ will group just as well as my friends Anchutz. I dont know anything or never heard of the Kimba though. 
I've seen the benchrest results and the CZs are consistently as the best of the factory guns, including Anschutz. The only thing you get with the Anschutz is slightly better cosmetics. CZs do not need trigger jobs out of the box. They are consistently good, and if there's a little too much creep, there are instructions in the manual for adjusting the trigger.
I couldnt agree more!!!
The Dodge Viper can actually outrun the Porsche 911 in some scenarios.
I did not mean to say the CZ was not as accurate as the Anschutz...just not as "graceful" in its delivery.
The CZ is a very plain looking bolt action. The Anschutz has "wow" factor. I guess you could jazz up the CZ, but I have not seen too many mods. Then again, I havent looked.
I prob would like one, just not right after I bought my Ruger.
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The Dodge Viper can actually outrun the Porsche 911 in some scenarios.
I did not mean to say the CZ was not as accurate as the Anschutz...just not as "graceful" in its delivery.
The CZ is a very plain looking bolt action. The Anschutz has "wow" factor. I guess you could jazz up the CZ, but I have not seen too many mods. Then again, I havent looked.
I prob would like one, just not right after I bought my Ruger.
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Stuporman,
The SGB tool was worth fooling around with, but I don't have any further applications for it. My desire on purchasing it was to make hunting ammo from standard velocity target ammo. This did not work. The ammo shoots a hole into the squirrels, the wounds bleed profusely, but the animals run and often escape. In fact, my .177 air rifle is much more effective on squirrels than these SGB bullets. I've returned to using factory high velocity hollow point ammo. I also tried the SGBs on prairie dogs. They run off wounded and die in their holes.
I regularly have people come up and admire the looks of my CZ Lux. It's not an Anschutz, but at any distance greater than about three feet, it's hard to tell. The CZ also gives you that feeling of thrift, especially considering performance is identical to the Anschutz. One of the silhouette shooters around here sold his Anschutz and got a CZ because he likes it better. I'd have bought an Anschutz myself, but it didn't seem worth it.
The SGB tool was worth fooling around with, but I don't have any further applications for it. My desire on purchasing it was to make hunting ammo from standard velocity target ammo. This did not work. The ammo shoots a hole into the squirrels, the wounds bleed profusely, but the animals run and often escape. In fact, my .177 air rifle is much more effective on squirrels than these SGB bullets. I've returned to using factory high velocity hollow point ammo. I also tried the SGBs on prairie dogs. They run off wounded and die in their holes.
I regularly have people come up and admire the looks of my CZ Lux. It's not an Anschutz, but at any distance greater than about three feet, it's hard to tell. The CZ also gives you that feeling of thrift, especially considering performance is identical to the Anschutz. One of the silhouette shooters around here sold his Anschutz and got a CZ because he likes it better. I'd have bought an Anschutz myself, but it didn't seem worth it.
Thanks for the info...
I was just about to get a SGB tool, I am thankful I did not.
I thought the Anschutz had that cool stock with the adjustable butt and stuff.
All the pics I have seen of them look cooler than the stock CZ I saw at the gun store.
Thanks!
I was just about to get a SGB tool, I am thankful I did not.
I thought the Anschutz had that cool stock with the adjustable butt and stuff.
All the pics I have seen of them look cooler than the stock CZ I saw at the gun store.
Thanks!
Did you notice nobody mentioned Kimber? Kimbers are sort of like trophy wives, great to show off and fondle- but lacking in functionality. Too many mxed reviews concerning accuracy for a high end firearm. With Anshutz you get what you pay for and with CZ you get a **** of a bargain.
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What is the story with guns in Aussie land? Can you have rifles, shotguns? Only handguns banned or everthing?
What is the story with guns in Aussie land? Can you have rifles, shotguns? Only handguns banned or everthing?
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We can have Bolt Action and Lever action Rifles but Semi-Auto,Pump Action rifles are Banned unless you are a primary producer with a certain class of licence . They are trying to take semi Auto Handguns away at the moment.
Thats horrible!
Is crime that bad in Australia?
Youve got alot of wilderness down there...you wont catch me traipsing around the outback with nothing less than a semi auto .303 and maybe a hot loaded .40 auto pistol.
Then again, never been to Australia...and if they are such jerks about gun ownership...I never will.
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Is crime that bad in Australia?
Youve got alot of wilderness down there...you wont catch me traipsing around the outback with nothing less than a semi auto .303 and maybe a hot loaded .40 auto pistol.
Then again, never been to Australia...and if they are such jerks about gun ownership...I never will.
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We had a guy that killed 35 people with an AR15 back in 1996. This is why they changed the laws. I dont have a problem with that side of it. I dont see any reason to own Guns like the Ar15 or SKS type weapons. More an Ego thing i reckon. I would rather use skill to hunt than max firepower. Same thing with the Semi-auto Handguns. Crime is not bad here but when assholes take them to school and kill other kids, there's a problem.
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Weatherby,
The opinion you expressed about no need for the AR types of weapon was probably held by of lot of your countrymen and that is EXACTLY why you lost so many of your gun rights. The anti's look for ****** in the armor of the RKBA community and chip away at them till they finally get what they want. DISARMAMENT. I think if we ALL backed EVERYONE's right to own ANY weapon they chose, we would be a stronger force and have fewer stupid laws on the books. And then if we could just get the courts to severely punish criminals, guns would no longer be a problem.
The opinion you expressed about no need for the AR types of weapon was probably held by of lot of your countrymen and that is EXACTLY why you lost so many of your gun rights. The anti's look for ****** in the armor of the RKBA community and chip away at them till they finally get what they want. DISARMAMENT. I think if we ALL backed EVERYONE's right to own ANY weapon they chose, we would be a stronger force and have fewer stupid laws on the books. And then if we could just get the courts to severely punish criminals, guns would no longer be a problem.
I own a BRNO Lux and a CZ American. They're both very accurate once you've figured out there ammo preference. I have tried most of the readily available stuff from ultra-cheapo bulk to Lapua and Eley and my pocket book is glad to note that the Lux shoots within a dime at 50 with Win T22 and the American ldoes the same American Eagle.
Mechanically the only weak spot in the CZ's are the triggers. They can only be made to be so good and the difference is quite obvious on a side by side comparison with an Anchutz or a Walther. But the CZ is only a third or less the price.
Cosmetically, you get what you pay for.
Mechanically the only weak spot in the CZ's are the triggers. They can only be made to be so good and the difference is quite obvious on a side by side comparison with an Anchutz or a Walther. But the CZ is only a third or less the price.
Cosmetically, you get what you pay for.
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Are all the stocks on your CZ's the American type? I found the look to be rather boring. We only can get the European stock here, i prefer this stock over the American style anyway and it closely matches the Anshutz looks also.
My CZ (BRNO) Lux has a really nice Schnabel style stock (walnut I think) with an interesting grain pattern. I've received comments on it. The butt drops low, I guess to accomodate usage of the provided iron sights, but it fits me fine when I use a scope.
The "CZ American" has a plainer looking walnut stock and I don't think the checkering is all that great. Nice thing about the American is that the receiver and the barrel are both polished. The receiver on the Lux is matte.
I don't know why, but the last few inches of the my lux's barrel are unrifled and apparently a different piece. I guess thats to creat a long sight radius. A little cheasy. I won't complain on how the rifle shoots though!
The "CZ American" has a plainer looking walnut stock and I don't think the checkering is all that great. Nice thing about the American is that the receiver and the barrel are both polished. The receiver on the Lux is matte.
I don't know why, but the last few inches of the my lux's barrel are unrifled and apparently a different piece. I guess thats to creat a long sight radius. A little cheasy. I won't complain on how the rifle shoots though!
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