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Over the last few years there seems to be a growing consensus that only the republicans are gun owners in this country and only they care about the gun rights of the american people.

I for one am a member of the democratic party also a member of a labor union ( IBEW Local 32 ) both seem to get a bad rap by the gun owning republicans in this country. Why ? We own guns ,we hunt , shoot and love our country just as much as they do .

As a responsible gun owner i do favor background checks on new firearm purchases , but feel that if one gun owner wants to sell a gun to someone else we should have the right to .

I do wish the gun laws we have in this country were enforced instead of just adding new ones to the list that are not enforced .

The 2nd. amendment gives all americans the right to keep and bear arms , but a person needs to remember that you need to use some common sense , if a person uses a gun to willfully harm another person for their own greed then by all means do not let then have another .

Just remember that republican or democrat , we are not all the same , but may be more alike than most people think
 

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stimpylu32 said:
The 2nd. amendment gives all americans the right to keep and bear arms...
The major difference is defined in your own words.

You believe that the government (in this case through the 2nd Amendment) is the defining grantor of your rights.

You simply don't have a clear understanding of the "nature" of rights.

Our rights are ours by birth, by the grace of Providence and the Almighty, and the 2nd Amendment simply acknowledges that The Founders understood the issue well enough to place into the very foundation of our law an article forbidding government at any level to infringe on that right.

No government at any level may assume authority to dictate what a free man may, or may not, do with regard to arms.

While most government chooses to ignore the fact, it's the law. Any law published afterward that is contrary to that law is voided at it's inception. That's the law too.

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Current trend of demo-repubs via the education system and government actions is to transmutate the meaning of 'rights' into something meaning 'privilege or duty' in the mind of the citizen. Soon the older tribes will die out and they will have their way,,,,,,unless.......


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Democrats get a bad rap because their elected voices are significantly anti-gun and anti 2nd Amendment. Labor Unions get the bad rap because they are seen as supporting the democratic party. Guilt by association, actually.

I can think of two democrats who own guns and should not. They are Senators Diane Fienstein and Charles Schumer. Should I say more?? Mikey.
 

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magooch said:
Dianne and Chucky own guns
I was sorta shocked also, but then I remembered that hypocracy doesnt bother hypocrats. Anyone remember all the trash that was comming outta Rosie O'Donells pie hole about tighter gun control? Then it came out that she was having her body guard obtain a CCW permit so as to protect her and her "kids". What a piece of work she is.....

As for the left wing democrats and guns thing goes---I dont remeber the last time right wing republicans were trying to further stip us out of our GOD given ( 2nd ammendment ) RIGHTS.

On a side note, this reminds me of the time GW announced the news of a tax cut. He said it would benefit rich democrats too. I think he was speaking to the millionare democrats who publicly dispise the rich. ( More hypocracy )

FW, you do a **** of a fine job running this forum with all the info, but every time I visit it, I get depressed. I am heading to the saloon forum tp pound a few beers :grin:
 

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pennsylvanians own more guns and sell more hunting lics than any other state. They are also pro-Democrats and Pro-Union. Their Democratic Governor keeps trying to take their gun rights away. When will they learn!
 

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FWiedner said:
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Our rights are ours by birth, by the grace of Providence and the Almighty, and the 2nd Amendment simply acknowledges that The Founders understood the issue well enough to place into the very foundation of our law an article forbidding government at any level to infringe on that right.

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Go FW................
 

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Yep you can see them on the TV show Cops.
 
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