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I want to buy a 460. I would want the Smith to have an intergal scope mount (like the PC guns). I had a 629 with the Warne mount. Its a great mount I just didn't like the way it changed the balance of the gun. I have an Encore so I would just have to buy the barrel which would be 10 inches w/a brake.
 

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I contemplated getting the 460 myself. But opted for another 500 MAG instead. But if I had to have a 460, it would be a Smith. :D
 

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I already have a 460 in the encore. I love it! It has been a lot of fun. I tested some 45colt loads thismorning. My first 4 shots at 50yrds made 1 ragged hole. This was off the bench. This was my first load with the 45lc (27grn h110 240xtp mag) I didnt shoot any 460 rounds today it started raining soon after I started. 45lc rounds are pretty mild out of the encore.
My next 460 load to test will be the 300grn xtp over 41 & 42 grns h110.

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One thing to remember the SW 460 is rated at 72 K,but the Encore is rated at only 60 K so I suggest you be careful because you can stretch (or worse) the encore frame.


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One thing to remember the SW 460 is rated at 72 K,but the Encore is rated at only 60 K so I suggest you be careful because you can stretch (or worse) the encore frame.


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Very good point.
 

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No, the real thing to remember is that the Encore is rated for the Belted Magnums which go up to 64,000 psi with a case head of .513". The 460 S & W has a case head of .477" The last info I saw was that the 460 was rated at 65,000 psi by SAAMI.
If SSK will chamber for the 460 than the gun must be able to stand it. I am sure JD Jones has done his homework. Now is there a possibility that he may be wrong? Yes, just like anyone is not perfect , but I tend to trust him myself.
 

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I really appreciate your input. This load is acually similar to some load info that JD Jones sent to me with the same bullet. Maybe I should back off of my load development until tested data becomes available.? I do trust the people at SSK, but you are correct,something could always go wrong. If anyone has any load ideas or imput (min-max, powders etc) I will sure be open to any ideas or criticism. I know I dont need any accidents and am for sure not an expert reloader.

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This is just me but if JD Jones says it is ok than it should be ok. There is a possibility that something from Hodgdons could be wrong too or maybe Hornady. If you are waiting for data that can't be wrong I'd say you will not live long enough to get it.
Go ahead and use the data from SSK and quit worrying. Just use your head and standard loading practices, that you should know if you are reloading, and have fun.
 

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thanks,.. I recieved an e-mail back today from JD Jones. He say there has never been a specific pressure limit placed on the encore by TC or any other reliable source. He says there are many items taken into consideration, case capacity, head diameter, etc. and he feels the 460 is fine. Says he has shot his 460 many times and is having no problems. The big item is staying away from stupid loads. This eases my mind somewhat, but I will still start low and be very careful.

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Thanks for responging to the poll. I going to see if I can shoot a VXR before I make up my mind. Getting the Encore barrel would cost half of a new S&W!!!
 

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chris s said:
Thanks for responging to the poll. I going to see if I can shoot a VXR before I make up my mind. Getting the Encore barrel would cost half of a new S&W!!!
One thing to consider, if you are in dangerous game area, the S&W offers 5 shots compared to the T/C's one shot. Now I like shooting my Encores and Contenders, but nothing like a quick follow up shot without taking your eye off the game. Just something to consider. :D
 

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the whole concept of the .460 cartridge was for max velocity....so the encore barrel will extract that from the round....and you can still shoot the cassul and the colt and the schofield round if you want to. And the big plus is long range accuracy. the Encore will out shoot any revolver at long range. Put a bipod on it and you really do have a 250 yard handgun. And the money you will save over the revolver...will buy the dies, bullets, brass, primers, manuals, and have plenty left over to go hunting......did I mention I favor the Encore barrel ?
 

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Simple math to me; S&W has 5 shots, The Encore has one shot,
Now you have an angry itchy,bitey,scratchy critter in excess of
a ton bent on eating or stomping you in the ground.
you have one shot and I have 5..... hmmmm.
 

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with a 460 Encore, I'll only need one shot, and with the range of the cartridge, the critter would be far enough away to reload the Encore, which can be done pretty fast!
 

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with a 460 Encore, I'll only need one shot, and with the range of the cartridge, the critter would be far enough away to reload the Encore, which can be done pretty fast!
Yea right. It is obvious you do not hunt dangerous game. But if that's what make you happy then go for it.
 

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Well, that was if we were using pistols........I would use a rifle for dangerous game.......
Where is you sense of adventure. :D I am going black bear hunting with my pistol. Other's have taken Grizzles and even a few have used handguns in Africa.
 

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look at the cape buffs that have been taken with a 454 and so forth
 
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