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New to the board, great resource. Here's an interesting question.

In Idaho, 209 primers on a muzzleloader are a no,no. Anyone know if the encore can be fitted to handle a percussion cap? I think I know the answer, but I thought I would ask. Cheers. thanks for any answers.
 

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You would have to check more your local laws but there is a breech plug that takes a .380 casing with a small pistol primer. Just a thought.
 

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Yes!.....if all you have to do is get away from the 209 primer you in luck. Cecil Epp at Precision Rifle makes a replacement breech plug that uses 25acp brass and any small size rifle or pistol primer. I use it with CCI 400 primers and really like it. This system has made my Encore a tack driver, cuts out any fouling blow back and the 25 brass is a joy for my old fingers to handle in the morning darkness :D. Total cost is probably about 100 bucks for the plug, brass and a set of 25acp dies. Cecil also makes some mighty fine bullets. www.prbullet.com
GOOD SHOOTIN', Walt ;)
 

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If I am not mistaken the rules say that he MUST use No.11 or musket caps which mean a no.11 nipple or a musket nipple and I cannot see a way to use either one of them in a closed breach weapon that uses a firing pin. I would get a diffrent rifle that is made for the cap required by law.
 

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Here are the rules. Rifle seasons and varmit hunting the barrel is good. the 209 system is good. Otherwise, here are the actual Idaho rules for the 09-10 season as they stand today. thanks for the info....

Muzzleloader-Only Season
Any person hunting in a muzzleloader-only season, including controlled hunts, must have in their possession a license with a muzzleloader permit validation. During a muzzleloader- only season, it is illegal to pursue or kill a big game animal with any firearm, muzzleloading pistol, or weapon other
than a muzzleloading rifle or musket. In addition, the muzzleloading rifle or musket must be:
• Capable of being loaded only from the muzzle.
• Equipped with only open or peep sights. Scopes and any electronics are prohibited. Except hunters with a visual disability may apply for a permit to use nonmagnifying scopes. (Applications are available at Fish and Game offices).
• Loaded only with loose black powder, loose Pyrodex, or other loose synthetic black powder. Pelletized powders are prohibited.
• Equipped with a single or double-barrel.
• Loaded with a projectile that is within .010 inch of the bore diameter. Sabots are prohibited.
• Loaded with a patched round ball or conical non-jacketed projectile comprised wholly of lead or lead alloy.
• Equipped only with a flint, percussion cap or musket cap. 209 primers are prohibited.
• Equipped with an ignition system in which any portion of the cap is exposed or visible when the weapon is cocked and ready to fire.
 

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The last two rules have got'cha. Must be a percussion cap, flint, or musket cap rules out the 25acp breech plug with small rifle primer and visible ignition rules out the Encore entirely.....Sorry :(
On the plus side....shooting an old side lock percussion rifle IS a lot of fun!
 

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I have an older TC inline I got for one of the kids years ago that has a musket cap that is exposed when ready to shoot it, so you don't have to have a side hammer. But Hopalong is right, the sidehammers are more fun. I love the feeling of the stuff floating back into your face on a cold morning, and the rotten egg smell of the black powder. It has it all: noise, smoke, embers, smell, kick. What more could you want?
 

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Our season opens here in Virginia tomorrow morning, if we keep talking it up I might have to let the Encore sit and get out an old Hawken or my little White Mountain Carbine...hmm.....maybe even some real black.....hmmmmm ::)
 
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