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Help me decide on Mod 83 caliber

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#1 ·
I have owned a 454 FA and a 97, the 97 grip was way to small. I want a 6 inch 83 in either 41 mag. 44 special or 44 mag. It will mainly be a woods gun but I am really into accuracy. For example my Ruger 10 inch super blackhawk shoots 1 inch at 50 yards. My question is all things being equal which of the three calibers do you feels is the more accurate caliber.
 
#3 ·
I've had a 6" .41 Magnum for going on 20 years...it is simply outstanding... Have run nothing but full bore cast loads from 255 to 300 grains.

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780 yards in Idaho...2014... Taken from behind the target to the cabin..

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Have quite a few .41s and none are lacking in the accuracy department...

Bob
 
#4 ·
44 mag all the way. The other two cant match its power and if you load you can load down a 44 to the other twos power level.
 
#6 ·
Go with the 41 magnum in the model 83, you will love it. If you shoot 250 gr bullets in a 41 or a 44 you will never, ever see a difference in the field. Freedom Arms says their top selling caliber right now is the 41 magnum. Just used mine in Africa, took a fine Gemsbok with a 250 gr cast, went through both front shoulders with an exit, never took a single step.
Dick
 
#7 · (Edited)
Love the cabin, range and .41mag

The only .41s here are Bisley Ruger BH long bbl Accusport and then a 1969 BH 3-screw. To me. the.41 mag seems a natural for accuracy and an ideal medium magnum. Need to get more brass & of course primers before getting a .41 or other caliber.

Would really like an FA in this caliber though, (even .44 & .357 too) but especially the .41mag for very fast loads. But no throat burners for me, right now anyway.

Also like the accuracy in the FA calibers that I already do have, alot! 45c, 454c, 475l, 50ae in m83s. Although currently active in looking for a .22 rimfire, will see how it goes.
 
#9 ·
Yeah for sure, almost picked up a m83, awhile back, new for $1700 ttl. But I was extremely active outdoors plus hunting & fishing in big bear areas so wasn't a priority then - tho still pretty active now.

Right now, .22lr ammo is fairly decent in the current market. I do dry fire/snapcap a little b4 testing my centerfire loads but .22 would be ideal and fun to add to the mix too.
 
#10 ·
Any of above would have been great today but happened to have this 45 Colt cyl/m83 with me on a deep woods hike, while trying for a coyote early this morning. Just couldn't get a clear shot although did see the canine twice at about 35 & 60 yards, whilst ghosting quickly through the woods. The mild 185g cast load would have worked very well, still being a pretty fast load. Gorgeous winter coat.

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#11 ·
truth be told with me is i spent alot of money on custom single actions and FA guns back in the day when i worked. today im retired and look at it a bit different and i could buy 3 or 4 good 22 pistols for what a FA cost. I know something like a single six doesnt have the cool factor a FA has but it is just as much fun to shoot at a 1/3 the cost and i can buy a boat load of 22 ammo for the difference.
 
#12 · (Edited)
Lloyd,

Very good. Yup, will not argue with most of above and then some.

Myself, I have sort of a margin that I personally draw on guns (different kinds that vary with interest too), same goes for 'any' other hobby, sport or interests/projects/work for that matter. BUT FA guns are not a 'cool factor' for me personally nor a status thing.

I consider too, the time that we have is limited, in regards to what we want to work with. But like you said, have done very well with the Single-Six and will always enjoy, grateful for all of it.

Sidenote: Won't feed the current 'shooting sport' industry goofyness though, glad to currently have that option.
 
#13 ·
i like freedom arms, but i will be the first to tell you the law of diminishing returns kicks in. case in point.....two 44 specials; one a 97 and one a ruger flat top....and i can't get the freedom arms to shoot better than the ruger. add the custom stuff i did to the ruger, and dollar for dollar, the ruger wins. even though that 97 is sweet.

curious if the OP ended up with.
 
#17 ·
After some thought, I picked and .44 Mag. I reload for it and shoot it a lot. I like to stuff in as much horse power as I can hold on to for grins and giggles. As far as I am concerned, the .44 Mag is that practical point where you can load it up as stout as you probably ever should, and in a heavy gun like the Model 83 pretty much shoot the gun all day and have fun for all of it. A .454 loaded to the max is not something that I would enjoy shooting more than a few rounds out of. So, why buy something that I have to start dumbing down to have fun with? I should add that I do not hunt so I do not need the extra horsepower of the .454 for big animals. The .44 Mag and the Model 83 lets me get my "bad-ass magnum" kicks using max loads without having to soak my hand in ice water for two days afterwards.
 
#18 ·
i went down the road of 454....great cartridge but i found myself downloading it. for most people, the 44 is the answer for a hunting revolver. for me, the 41 handles all i need doing. i do have my 44's though, and wont give them up anytime soon. wish i would have gone the route of the 41 back when you could still buy a 657 for 700ish. i would have had all 41 components instead of the 44. ah...live and learn i guess. truth is, i'm splitting hairs and am well served with the 44.
 
#20 ·
Ive had about all the big bores at one time or another and still own some. That said my true love has allways been the 44 mag. Never saw the hopla around the 41s. I owned many and still own two but for the most part they sit in the gun cabinet because the 44 is just better. The 45 colt started my love of the really big guns. Its a bit superior to the 44 if loaded to large frame ruger levels but not by a whole lot and ive had good and bad shooting 45s. Never owned a 44 that didnt shoot exceptionaly well. If im forced to admit it id say the same for the 41. But if i had to go to just one big bore gun it would be my 4 5/8s stainless super that i actually customized my self. Its got an aluminum grip frame and the whole gun was bead blasted to match. I scalloped the recoil sheild and loading gate and put an aluminum ejector rod housing on it to loose a few more ozs. It wears bowen front and rear sights and a set of french walnut grips scott kolar did for me. Ive killed everything from grey squirrel to a 1200 lb cow bison with it. Many deer bear and pigs. I dont know the round count on it but its LOTS. I call it my hammer. Its a tool thats used for what it was designed for and even though i dont handgun hunt anymore (old eyes) its still on my hip every deer season. It just plain works. The exact same reason i love the the 44 mag and the good old 06. Might not be money makers for journalists writing for gun rags. Might be boring to some. But they are never a bad choice. Matter of fact a better choice then what those idiots writing for mags want you to think is the latest greatest thing out.
 
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#21 ·
i agree with all of that.

the draw for the 41 is the standard round is a 210 grain, and i have a mold made that puts out a 200 grain bullet. a 200 grain cast is 60 grains less than my 44 mold. and i dont run power levels higher than what i need. as you know, you get to a certain point, and after that it is wasted.

in this day and age of hard to get components, i am all about stretching out what i have. use enough to be effective, but conserve resources at the same time. the 44 special gets me to where i want to be, and never would have done the 41 except i had a giant deal fall in my lap.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Very nice build are the extreme accurate FA revolvers and have worked them extensively over the years. If just using factory center-fire ammo would go with .357mag for target and then specialty ammo for lighter weight big game hunting such as on smaller white tail deer. Then probably .41 Mag & various 45 Colt velocities for the reloader.

Referencing other posts and just for general confab, I would typically NOT pay anywhere close to $3k for most guns nor these great revolvers.

All for reasonable profit but not excessive margins so as to keep the sport doable.

Especially with the modern CNC equipment in use today that should result in less custom hours per gun, FA was probably using 20 to 25 labor hours per gun even back in the 1990s or perhaps earlier before heavy use of CNC.

This FA custom hour usage was per the opinion (and known insights of other gunsmiths) but also of a well known and sharp revolver guy who has an excellent industry reputation throughout decades.