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i want a 12 gauge thats quality and will last me years. i need something i can use for game and for skeet and trap. i want lightweight and less than $500.

i am getting an extra paycheck in august and i am buying myself a new toy for my birthday.

any and all suggestions welcome.

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mossberg 930 or Charles Daly for semi's

Mossy 500 or 835, Rem 870 express, benelli nova for pumps
 

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I'd look for a good used Remington 1100.......which you should be able to find for the money you want to spend or less...There are many stories of these guns shooting 10's of thousands of rounds with no problems.....

The popularity of the 1100 guarantees parts will be available for many years to come.....

I have my Dad's Remington Sportsman 58. I've hunted with that gun over 40 years......It's killed about every kind of small game you can think of........shot many rounds of skeet and trap with it.........and it still works perfectly.......I finally semi-retired it a few years back, after dad died......no telling how many rounds have gone down the barrel, but it's a bunch........

I don't think you'll beat the reliability or durability of a Remington 1100 for the price....
 

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thats not a bad idea....but remingtons have never fit me very well. although i can try it and see, i havent ever shot a 12 gauge 1100.

i was thinking more of new guns but i guess a good deal on a used one wont hurt me.

i HATE the 870 express. i had one and got rid of it. the finish is ugly and mine got little rust spots on it no matter what i did to it and the stock was nasty and the finish came off.

the nova isnt a shotgun, its a ray gun from mars. no thanks.

the 1100 sounds close....any more ideas?

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MJB,

For doubles in skeet or trap, a nice O/U is what I personally like as it gives me 2 quick shots without lugging the weight of an autoloader. Unfortunately for O/U's, it almost guarantees going with an import. A lot of folks seem to like the DeHaans and they seem reasonably priced, service if needed down the road 20+ years well who knows.

If the Rem guns ain't yer bag, the Mossy auto as noted above could be a possibility (I like the safety on the top feature) or even the Win SX-2 auto.

Have fun deciding on what to get.
 

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HI if i was you i would STAY aWAY from the BENELLI or any thing they make i hda a new one it was shooting 10 inch to the right the point of impact at 30 yds had 2 gun smiths look at it and both said i need to send it back i did and Benelli had it from end of March to the almost the end of May and NEvER fix it sent it back and said it was ok i will never buy another benelli ever if they cant fix it i would look at a Mossboug they will fix it if you have to send it back VM
 

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Every Wal-Mart I have been in recently has had their Remingtons 11-87 Premiers on Clearance for $500. Not a steal at that price, but pretty good.
 

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thats not a bad idea....but remingtons have never fit me very well. although i can try it and see, i havent ever shot a 12 gauge 1100.

i was thinking more of new guns but i guess a good deal on a used one wont hurt me.

i HATE the 870 express. i had one and got rid of it. the finish is ugly and mine got little rust spots on it no matter what i did to it and the stock was nasty and the finish came off.

the nova isnt a shotgun, its a ray gun from mars. no thanks.

the 1100 sounds close....any more ideas?

Next time ya might post what you would NOT want so people don't waste time making suggestions :wink: Good luck with your new gun.

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other than the 870 i didnt KNOW what i didnt want. when i looked up the nova it wasnt my thing.

i am going to websites and checking out the guns you guys mention, since our town's gunshop has nothing but old remingtons and some crappy savage shotguns from the 60s and some .22s

i have a winchester 1300 but i shoot rifle almost exclusively unless rabbit or bird hunting, which isnt often. i had to sell my mossberg 9200 due to medical bills and i wanna replace it when i get the money. so i do know guns but the nova and cz are new ones on me.

and if youre on here to read the question i wouldnt think its wasting your time. i dont count ANY time on GBO to be wasted.

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Sounds like you need a winchester Model 12 to me. I'd look for 28" 2 3/4" that's been taken care of. For anything that doesn't require 3" or larger shells you cannot beat a M12. They are light, quick, balanced, and better made than any gun made today.

If you want to goose or turkey hunt, go with a Browning BPS. They are the most versitile shotguns made today. They are better in quality than an 870 (I own and use both) and are more dependable than anything else on the market. For real world shooting you simply cannot beat the BPS.
 

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duck, you had a **** of an idea. i would love to have m12. my grandfather has one and i have always loved his. not a bad idea...but can i do it for $400 or so or will i be in the $500-$600 range?

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ok heres the list so far:

CZ 712 autoloader
Winchester Model 12
Browning BPS
Charles Daly autoloader
H&R Topper Deluxe Classic

does KBI make the benelli shotgun too? because the one they make for charles daly looks so much like the benelli its eerie.

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I paid $325 for my favorite M12. You can find a good one for less than 500, particularly if you're looking for a gun to use rather than a gun to collect. The other great thing about getting a m12 is that you'll have a gun you'll be proud to own and pass on someday. I don't think the other guns on the list would fit that bill.
 

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Another suggestion is have a look at a Winchester 1500 XTR. The one I had was an aluminum receiver and very light weight. The finsh on that gun was beutiful........I bought it used at a pawn shop for $250.......I don't think the gun is as well made as an 1100, but served me well rabbit hunting for a couple of years until it was stolen.

By the way, my long time hunting pardner bought a used Remington 1100 12 gauge that looks like new.......he tells me he paid $125 for it..........I asked him if his fingers burned but he assured me it wasn't stolen........Somethings not right about the price...........I still think your best bet for a quality shot gun at that price is to look for a good 1100. Your grandchildren will enjoy it long after your gone.
 

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Even though varmint master had a bad experience with a Benelli, I have found them to be far and away the finest semi-automatic shotgun available. I have used my Mk II in the field, the range, and competition and don't know how many thousands of rounds I have run through it... without a single incident that wasn't attributable to a couple of rounds with faulty primers. This is why the Navy SEALS rely on them with their lives. And the cycle time is insane.

While it is above your $500 budget... if you truly want a shotgun you will be happy with for life, take the time to save up a little more coin and go for it.
 

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I've owned both the SBEII (Currently own) and the SBE. They are both great guns but suffer the same drawbacks as any auto. If you're a real-world hunter (mud, ice, dogs, etc) you'll be glad you went with a pump. A BPS will cycle with all sorts of crap in it. An M12 or 870 will too. Autos are great for a some things but I would want one as my only gun unless I was only going to pheasant hunt on game farms in beautiful weather, and then I'd go with a double.

The other thing i've noticed about both SBE and SBEII is that it's difficult to close the bolt quietly and still get it to close all the way. Also if you have small fingers beware of the magazine gate, it hurts like you wouldn't believe if you get a finger caught in there. This seems to be a real problem for women (it gives my girlfriend fits) and kids.
 

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don't get excited mjbgalt
This..... :wink: means I'm ribbing you. OK.
Iv'e seen many of this type of post, hey help pick my gun, my dog, my boots, my woman. I't like pushing religion or politics :-D (that's the sign for relating sarcasim)

BTW, I foregot to mention the Stoeger 2000. Seems like a nice gun for the money
 

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SX2, i knew you were playing, i just forgot MY smilie :D


whats the stoeger 2000? is that the over and under they sell?


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looks just like the CZ 712 and Charles Daly...weird.

But i REALLY like the looks and the price isnt bad either. I would just be concerned that if it breaks, will Stoeger be around for the next 40 years like others will.

-Matt
 
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