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Working 5 days a week leaving the house before the sun come up and getting home in the dark or close to it gives me only one day to hunt, Saturday. Sunday hunting will afford me more time in the field with my kid and my dog.
I found a web site that you can petition the state to open Sunday hunting like 43 other state have already done. Please sign on to help support the Pennslvania Sportsman. We pay to much for a license that we can only use once a week.

www.petitiononline.com/hntpa/petition.html.
 

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Like we need more deer shot.Plus licsense increase would be next.Then even less hunters causing the anti-gunners and animal lovers to move in.The whole PGC needs a revamp before anything else new is added on.Or another dumb season added on or more days.People need to look at the big picture not just wanting one more day to hunt.Plus it wouldn't be one more day,probbally four.Once Sunday hunting open then the push would be open the season on Saturday.I know you are looking at small game hunting but it would lead to big game hunting.
 

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Like we need more deer shot.Plus licsense increase would be next.Then even less hunters causing the anti-gunners and animal lovers to move in.The whole PGC needs a revamp before anything else new is added on.Or another dumb season added on or more days.People need to look at the big picture not just wanting one more day to hunt.daPlus it wouldn't be one more day,probbally four.Once Sunday hunting open then the push would be open the season on Saturday.I know you are looking at small game hunting but it would lead to big game hunting.
What are you talking about? Sunday is the only day left that we can't hunt on, except for crows. The entire hunting law code for Pennsylvania seems as though it was written by a bunch of drunken idiots, back during the 1600's. The semi automatic handgun/rifle law is so rediculous it's actually comical. What evidence, from any other state proves that semi automatic hunting weapons are unsafe? Adding change is revamping, unless you haven't realized. I don't know where you are from but around York and Adams county, you won't only see deer but you'll see herds of them in the fields. An "Either Sex" deer license should be allowed in counties with dense populations. If the state wouldn't strip so much money from license revenue, the sport would actually perpetuate itself. Deer could be more plentiful in areas where they aren't. Coyote hunting should be promoted, rather than deny they're spreading. The PGC has become just like every other government agency, fat and happy but the sport is in the toilet due to them.
 

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I definately agree the PGC is going down the toilet.Plus you are right on the coyote thing.Two of my friends trap and in less than two weeks have caught 50 of them.One problem I see with hunting is people with dogs.Alot of them around here just turn them loose and follow them with GPS.People are getting really fed up with that.You are fortunate to live in a area with a overabundance of deer.Where I live that isn't the case,things are pretty bad for me.Actually alot of the state is that way.Except down state where you live.Funny thing is most of the pro Sunday hunting people are from your area.
 

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we already have a thread that discusses ideas to change hunting in pa, we also have one for opinions on sunday hunting. personally the more i think it over the more i like the idea. we have no control over it. only choice is to hunt it or not nobody will force you to.
 

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XD40SC said:
Don't need it, don't want it.
Bingo…

I don’t think XD40SC is being selfish at all…

He indicated “He doesn’t need it”—He doesn’t need influenza either—does that also make him selfish?...

He indicated “He doesn’t want it”—Could be compared to the influenza thing again—Does that make him selfish?...

You have been an avid advocate of Sunday hunting in several posts—All well and good, you have your opinion…

But does that make you selfish in that you are only thinking about yourself?...

I don’t think so—the situation just fits your needs and that is Sunday hunting…

But the statement, “What possible reason could you have for not hunting on Sunday?” becomes quit self-centered in that it appears yours is the only opinion that matters and you are challenging those who disagree with you to backup why they disagree…

XD40SC or me or anyone else who might be against the approval of Sunday hunting, do not owe you a reason at all—period…

I honestly don’t care if it passes or not—my property will still be open to hunt, or at least it won’t be posted. I don’t feel that I should spend the money to post it should the hunting pressure become a bit of a problem to me on Sunday if I wish to spend time at this particular property…

This property is open to hunt, not by anyone from 100’s of miles away, but to the locals and a few others. As a matter of fact, a bear was taken on Saturday within the boundaries of my property—Good for that person…

But, I do know plenty of farmers in my area, and I am uncertain as to how they will accept this Sunday hunting. In my area, that is many many acres—in the neighborhood of several thousand plus without really adding and thinking about that quantity of land that is huntable (sic)…

It might pass that Sunday hunting is approved—that is good for those who want it for whatever there reasons might be…

And if it does get approval, I certainly won’t start a petition to eliminate it…

Maybe it will work out O.K.

So be it…

But, I worked with a person for a good many years and he “had to kill something every day of the week”. And he did, one way or another—the neighbor’s cat, a “tweety” bird, or whatever he could drop the hammer on…

I felt sorry and still do for that person…

Hunting is one thing, required killing, and an extra day to do it, is another…

Good-luck…

BCB

 

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av-doc The difference between the first discussion on Sunday hunting and this one is that at the top of this one, I have posted a web site where you can sign on to a petition.



Lord give me the stregnth to change the things that I can
The surrenity to accept the things I can not
And the wisdom to know the difference
 

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my comment was for jays375 and Flash as they were discussing the subject, which was drawing from the actual reason for this topic(which was to show people that a petition was started and access to participate) I urge anyone interested in participating to do so. I'm not sure if it will change anything or not but hey it can't hurt.
For what its worth the PGC is not a govt. agency,they are a separate entity. they are funded entirely by licence fees.
 

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BCB said:
XD40SC said:
Don't need it, don't want it.
Bingo…

I don’t think XD40SC is being selfish at all…

He indicated “He doesn’t need it”—He doesn’t need influenza either—does that also make him selfish?...

He indicated “He doesn’t want it”—Could be compared to the influenza thing again—Does that make him selfish?...

You have been an avid advocate of Sunday hunting in several posts—All well and good, you have your opinion…

But does that make you selfish in that you are only thinking about yourself?...

I don’t think so—the situation just fits your needs and that is Sunday hunting…

But the statement, “What possible reason could you have for not hunting on Sunday?” becomes quit self-centered in that it appears yours is the only opinion that matters and you are challenging those who disagree with you to backup why they disagree…

XD40SC or me or anyone else who might be against the approval of Sunday hunting, do not owe you a reason at all—period…

I honestly don’t care if it passes or not—my property will still be open to hunt, or at least it won’t be posted. I don’t feel that I should spend the money to post it should the hunting pressure become a bit of a problem to me on Sunday if I wish to spend time at this particular property…

This property is open to hunt, not by anyone from 100’s of miles away, but to the locals and a few others. As a matter of fact, a bear was taken on Saturday within the boundaries of my property—Good for that person…

But, I do know plenty of farmers in my area, and I am uncertain as to how they will accept this Sunday hunting. In my area, that is many many acres—in the neighborhood of several thousand plus without really adding and thinking about that quantity of land that is huntable (sic)…

It might pass that Sunday hunting is approved—that is good for those who want it for whatever there reasons might be…

And if it does get approval, I certainly won’t start a petition to eliminate it…

Maybe it will work out O.K.

So be it…

But, I worked with a person for a good many years and he “had to kill something every day of the week”. And he did, one way or another—the neighbor’s cat, a “tweety” bird, or whatever he could drop the hammer on…

I felt sorry and still do for that person…

Hunting is one thing, required killing, and an extra day to do it, is another…

Good-luck…

BCB
Actually he doesn't say I don't need it, I don't want it. Simply "Don't need it, don't want it" Not a far reach to believe he is stating that as an all encompassing fact for all hunters in PA.
 

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"Actually he doesn't say I don't need it, I don't want it. Simply "Don't need it, don't want it" Not a far reach to believe he is stating that as an all encompassing fact for all hunters in PA."


Well I guess the "I" in first person singular and the "He" in third person singular is just implied as the subject. But that was an English class long over 43+ years ago...

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BCB said:
"Actually he doesn't say I don't need it, I don't want it. Simply "Don't need it, don't want it" Not a far reach to believe he is stating that as an all encompassing fact for all hunters in PA."


Well I guess the "I" in first person singular and the "He" in third person singular is just implied as the subject. But that was an English class long over 43+ years ago...

BCB
Correct- the I is implied. Basic English grammer.
 

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Bingo said:
I don't want to sound inflamitory,but, that sounds selfish to me. What possible reason could you have for not hunting on Sunday?
that's how freedoms are lost. because people couldn't care less about their neighbors as long as they have what THEY want. I can hunt on Sunday if I want and I would also help someone else that can't.
yes, people are selfish and think only of themselves.
 

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Bingo said:
I don't want to sound inflamitory,but, that sounds selfish to me. What possible reason could you have for not hunting on Sunday?
that's how freedoms are lost. because people couldn't care less about their neighbors as long as they have what THEY want. I can hunt on Sunday if I want and I would also help someone else that can't.
yes, people are selfish and think only of themselves.
I am selfish. I want Sunday to be time for me to go to church with my family. I want the rest of the day to be spent with my family. This includes my wife who doesn't hunt. Yep, Bug you hit the nail on the head again with your infinite wisdom. Good thing you aren't judgemental. Please refer to Graybeards post concerning you.
 

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Gentleman, I simply want more opertunity and freedom. In the other thread I gave what I considered solid reasons for supporting Sunday hunting. I see it as a good opertunity. It will give Dads more time afield with their kids and double the hunting opertunities for most of the hunters in this state.
Although I can not back it up with statistics, I think you may find most active hunters still work for a living. Seven to three or nine to five, five days a week gives only one day a week to hunt.
As for church and time at home with family, that too is a good and nobel choice. But again, it is a choice, a freedom of choice. That is all I ask for, That and the support of fellow hunters who beleave the freedom to choose is important.
Offering logical opinions or reasons for your views only opens the door for discussion. If you make a valid point, you may inlighten another person and change their prospective.
If you don't want to support your opinion, why bother offering it? "Because" is not a reason or a valid argument and leaves no room for open discussion or debate.
 

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we can argue it here,will it stop it? me thinks not! The real question here, is how will it affect me? It will give my kids 2 extra days to hunt deer,an extra chance to hunt small game every week(we barely get out now) Will it make much of a difference to me personally? not really! I take my vacation for deer season.
If i consider other hunters i know, it will nearly double their hunting days, most only get the 2 saturdays.

I foresee it will pass probably come into effect next year, so the real decision here is will you use the opportunity or not?
 

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i've lived in states with sunday hunting(military 14 years) and i think its funny that its really no big deal.it will be new to us,but in a few years we'll wonder why we didn't do it earlier.in nebraska,i had a preacher 3 doors down that went with me every sunday phesant hunting,he'd show up at 1pm.said he had to tend to his flock up till then,now he could tend to a flock of phesants till dark!
 
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